even if they do, we dont have the mastery point for it becos of this accuracy tactic, unless its better than furious stomping/shatter limbs.Dackjanielz wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:40 pm personally i think both GTTC and Rampage should jus be replaced with something else entirely.
They have been nerfed which has solved most of the toxicity but they're both still just fundamentally bad abilities to have in the game generally imo.
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Re: [SL] why so unpopular?
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Which is a good thing. Opportunity cost should very much be a thing. I feel like over the years more and more of it has been patched out because people feel like they should be able to get every good choice on thier respective class.....Speedyluck wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:17 pmeven if they do, we dont have the mastery point for it becos of this accuracy tactic, unless its better than furious stomping/shatter limbs.Dackjanielz wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:40 pm personally i think both GTTC and Rampage should jus be replaced with something else entirely.
They have been nerfed which has solved most of the toxicity but they're both still just fundamentally bad abilities to have in the game generally imo.
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I am usually a min-maxer and lovedd that Slayer was top tier at 6 man / Scs / oRVR / City, they could aoe and ST in same build and had a fun kit. However, I could never get past how ugly they were and so pain stakingly never made one. If they arent wearing the sov cloak i have to examine gear to tell if a slayer is lvl 18 or rr 80 and full sov.zulnam wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:55 am The recent changes don't help, but it was never super popular despite being top DPS on both sides for a long time. And i will say why, since everyone else is afraid to say it:
Slayer is a f-ugly class.
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WL can run and one shot.
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Slayer is "unpopular" because it was insanely powerful for ALONG TIME. Classic RoR move was to buff indirectly(maybe) slayer rampage when changed that guard dmg is undefendable if the attack on the guardee is undefendable... which obviously is not a good idea ffs.
Then overnerf happened to Slayer. If they would change guard mechanic back to what it was and slayer could get original rampage becase now it wouldnt ignore GUARD MECHANIC for 20s...
I really think we all would be better off if we change how stats etc everthing works back to AOR. There was no "Unnesessarily complicated " mechanics, why think that this Small but dedicated ror team could do better than the original devs? This is not a diss of the RoR Team at all, Huge respects for them but i do think my suggestions would make RoR Staff life easier as well.
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Then overnerf happened to Slayer. If they would change guard mechanic back to what it was and slayer could get original rampage becase now it wouldnt ignore GUARD MECHANIC for 20s...
I really think we all would be better off if we change how stats etc everthing works back to AOR. There was no "Unnesessarily complicated " mechanics, why think that this Small but dedicated ror team could do better than the original devs? This is not a diss of the RoR Team at all, Huge respects for them but i do think my suggestions would make RoR Staff life easier as well.
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I would think with the new ability system it is possible to make rampage hits undefendable while guard damage not. This would have been the more sensible ability adjustment, when you acknowledge that destro tanks on average have better access to avoidance buffs no matter the spec.
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Because Dwarves and specially Slayers were the MAIN nightmare of the destro in the last 4 years...... so they whined everyday about this class and rampage./Aebel wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:36 pm I feel like I'm constantly tripping over Choppas but I feel like I never see Slayers. I know no class is a perfect mirror to the other faction but what makes Choppa so much more popular than Slayers and why is Slayer so unpopular in general?
Finally They were listened by the "balance" dev team.=> since 4 month, all others DPS classes are now far better than the Slayers in the several gameplay (WL => WB-zerg / rDPS Small Scale - solo oRvR) .. there remain only the "hardcore / RP" players who simply love to play a dwarf Slayer.
Choppas are better because, even they was also concerning by the last nerfs, they gained first a Channeled 360° to compensate initially the GTDC adjustment early in this year and stay better than Marauder in WB/ zerging pla for AoE dmg - as simple as that
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Just to bring this back, I don't recall on RoR Slayers highly popular class played wise in top 5, intact if I recall and I'm too lazy to lookup and verify Slayer in RoR for popular class was always 8-10 top seed of all classes.. now changes have prolly reduced that to maybe top 15 played on server? Again too lazy to look up and fact check myself, I'm basing my assumptions of classes I see as I play over past 8 years on RoR.and the reason why I feel it's never been as popular as others I in Order Rdps has always been played more as it's just "easier" and doesn't require a baby sitter.
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Why play a slayer when you can play an Overpowered & overtuned class like SW? Gotta see how low these people working on the game want to see the population sink.
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What a time to see SW called op! Finally they are useful, while op slayers are considered trash.Mooselager wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 10:09 pm Why play a slayer when you can play an Overpowered & overtuned class like SW? Gotta see how low these people working on the game want to see the population sink.

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