super boring build duel(vid)

[thorunir]

Hi Jafh, this is getting to be fun, and since you seem to be a calm person who knows how to lead a conversation, I wanted to join in as well, accomplice to a day at work where I really have nothing to do.

I went and looked at the killboard. I opened all the kills you had (very few, congratulations!) and realized that they are all from WC/SC guards, and lava. You can clearly see this because the total life points you suffered are often under 500, so it means you were punt at a guard or thrown into lava. In the other cases where the life points suffered are over 10k, if you open the map you can see that you are near a WC for which your killer took advantage of the damage bonus, or took you near there and then punt you in the direction of the guards/lava.

The last kill you suffered that seems authentically the result of a duel was in late April:
Praag
Date: 2024-04-29
Time: 17:27:06
by of a sorceror (Lydraz, 40/71), you were 40/82.

From that time (April 29) onwards you have not suffered any real kills, yet you are a frequent player who plays almost every day. now i am very surprised that in all your constant solo roaming for 5 months, you have never been killed solo by anyone. MDVP has also been killed, but not you! Never! In 5 months! Playing maybe every day!

Now we can find several causes.

1 For example, the latency, for 5 months in a row, in every duel/skirmish (LOL)
2 some patch broke the class (maybe all ROR), threw off all parameters.In those days (3/05) this had just come out: viewtopic.php?t=53038
3 bug abuse
4 cheat, don't take this the wrong way but run really hard! Also it seems that the code is to your advantage regarding mitigation, skill range, regeneration. This obviously needs to be proven, and I can't do that.

I can't tell you how many kills you have done since May, but in total you have over 4700.

Just to see how strange it is I'll leave you links to your kills against some experienced players, who know how to play, how to gear up and who by some strange chance have never won a duel against you. And don't tell me you are better than all of them! I don't think that if everything works properly it would be possible to make 4700 only kills with zero real deaths (maybe it's about ten or twenty punt in warcamps). Nor tell me that no skill is needed in this game! Besides these players there are many many others that maybe I have not seen, but it is easy for anyone to randomly open a page and put two and two together.

In 5 months you have not lost a duel, not even against very good players, yet you keep saying that everything is normal, that everything works correctly. 1vX for minutes without going below 80% life, and not only against noobs, of the kills that follow who knows how many you have done vsX. I hope the devs take a look and become aware of what is going on.


https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/35711961 Hystoria 3/0

ttps://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/38411638 Warchosen 5/0

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/38304603 Goodunion 11/0

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/33862458 Grufrip 5/0

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/38088764 Relife 3/0

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/37951003 Poliisi 1/0

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/38102108 Governess 18/0

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/36043142 Krima 2/0

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/37824408 Thargrimm 2/0

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/38352222 Penduul 15/0

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/37675937 Khaled 12/0

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/37906016 Sebass 8/0

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/38468854 Bazelini 7/0

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/36496329 Daewuur 12/0

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/38630190 Strongbarff 2/0

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/37560027 Bicska 6/0

Greetings,

That sorcerer kill was vs a sorcerer that had a pocket healer, so it counted as a solo kill.

Last duel I lost was in july vs an engineer. The reason I lost was mainly ignorance, as I ignored everything about engineers at the time (I didn't even know that they deal corporeal damage).

SnB IB is really strong in 1v1 and I'm always thinking of changes I can make to optimise my build for 1v1. Most of the people I fight are not only not optimised for 1v1, but they are not used to 1v1, so they are not used to fighting without a healer or without a tank guarding them. With time I have learned how to defend myself vs every class and how to kill them (this doesn't mean I can kill 100% of players, as there are some that are unkillable for me). Sometimes I do survive vs multiple enemies, but other times I die really fast, as it depends on who those enemies are, and on what tactics I am using.

I'm flattered that your conclusion is that I must be cheating or abusing bugs. I'm sorry, but all I do is use the tools provided by the game in the best way I can, and I'm not doing too badly so far.

There are other SnB IB's roaming and I'm sure they also do well.

Take care.

Losing tò an engie granadier as ib snb ....man u have corporeal resist skill that give alot of aa Also ( rarely u use It) + shield vs magic damage ...dunno how u lose vs them however engie is ally so don't xcount ...magus cant kill u and that count Is a fact no One diatru can kill u...i repeat Is not normal hack or not and for me the hack thing Is concrete and well used...however i must show video to someone Who can confirm After that i can be sure.

[jafh123]

can't you see that something is broken?

You may think the class is broken, but chosen, for example, is actually stronger.

[thorunir]

Greetings,

That sorcerer kill was vs a sorcerer that had a pocket healer, so it counted as a solo kill.

Last duel I lost was in july vs an engineer. The reason I lost was mainly ignorance, as I ignored everything about engineers at the time (I didn't even know that they deal corporeal damage).

SnB IB is really strong in 1v1 and I'm always thinking of changes I can make to optimise my build for 1v1. Most of the people I fight are not only not optimised for 1v1, but they are not used to 1v1, so they are not used to fighting without a healer or without a tank guarding them. With time I have learned how to defend myself vs every class and how to kill them (this doesn't mean I can kill 100% of players, as there are some that are unkillable for me). Sometimes I do survive vs multiple enemies, but other times I die really fast, as it depends on who those enemies are, and on what tactics I am using.

I'm flattered that your conclusion is that I must be cheating or abusing bugs. I'm sorry, but all I do is use the tools provided by the game in the best way I can, and I'm not doing too badly so far.

There are other SnB IB's roaming and I'm sure they also do well.

Take care.

LOL

so u say that all this comes form optimization? you think that none of the players from the list above optimized his toon? none on this server knows how to play and optimize his toon? no one here knows how to gear up, use closet goblin, switch tactics? You think all those players of the list do not know how to switch tactics/gear when they see a different opponent with different skill, especially after they got ra p ed and they see him again? or they do not know what to chose when they face different classes and builds?

You think that in 5 months you have never ben killed in solo because you are the only one that knows how to switch tactics? You think that in all those 4700 combat no one really knew how to play or that oathston was bugged? no one knew "no attack while oathstone is active"?

I havent seen the data about the duel you say with the engineer, any way you won combats vs all kind of damage when u have been attacked by 2-3-4 players, so ... (lemme see the linkto the engeneer duel)

Im not sayn that you can win vs everyone, high end regen can ignore you and walk to WC (as OP, even if he risked at some point), i am sayng that no one can kill you. not even the very experienced players of the server, lol nor even mdpvp, i didn't get if you dueled and he escaped or you didnt duel, but he wrote someting he "has to retire".. Just curious now, the duel happened? post the link of it on killboard if he died. and if he didn't die.

Now pay attensciun:

best server solo player (MDVP) chosed all tactics, gear and had an idea of what skill using and when, and still he did't kill you and now says he has to retire, this to keep answering to "Most of the people I fight are not only not optimised for 1v1, but they are not used to 1v1" (as the guys I posted in the links above I suppose .. LOL)

of course there are many SB IB doin very good, the reason is that code is broken, but they do not perform as good as you, probably they can't "optimize" as good as you do.

So, if it is not cheat , and ok, we say it is not cheat, from where this "immortality mode" you play with comes?

I can't link the duel vs the engineer because it was in Qu'aph. It was a weird duel as every time I would Punt him away from his healing keg the guards would bug out, so I had to stop punting and, because of that, he became unkillable for me. I did duel another engie who had the same build (armor talis and full regen) after analyzing my fight vs this one and won easily.

The duel vs mdvp did happen, we dueled twice and I won. I can't link it because it was in qu'aph. Had it been in an RvR lake, he could've just stealthed and gone away.

I'm sure all of these players are very good and can do all of that (most of them have been playing for years whereas I've been playing for less than a year), but they were not able to kill me, and that doesn't make me a cheater.

I am not immortal. I die a lot vs small groups. I can survive vs groups composed of classes that deal physical damage and are low RR (if there is a magus, sorc, we or dps shammy in the group I usually die in seconds).

To be honest, I really don't understand what this discussion is about, am I supposed to justify or proof that I'm not cheating just because I beat a bunch of people solo? I'm sorry, but I have never cheated in an online game and I don't plan to change that.

Man a player that only play from One year and barely know the game cant kill more skilled player and with X3 knoweldge Is a fact...however u Say i die from groups....u pretend tò not die Also tò them ....

[thorunir]

can't you see that something is broken?

You may think the class is broken, but chosen, for example, is actually stronger.

Chosen stronger in wich server?
Chosen cant kill 5k person and NEVER die or stronger with Ur lua script maybe

[Shieldslam]

This thread is nothing but a bunch of people (including me) complaining about regen and near immortal 1v1 builds while the ones playing those said builds defend their overtuned mess with meaningless excuses. All of this while everyone knows that the chances of something changing are close to zero, what an absolute joke this has become.

[jafh123]

This thread is nothing but a bunch of people (including me) complaining about regen and near immortal 1v1 builds while the ones playing those said builds defend their overtuned mess with meaningless excuses. All of this while everyone knows that the chances of something changing are close to zero, what an absolute joke this has become.

Not exactly. It started as you say (I am in favor of tuning down regen with it being affected by healing debuffs), but it has now became a trial in which the accused has to prove his innocence. As a lawyer, this seems awkward...

[REWENGA]

This thread is nothing but a bunch of people (including me) complaining about regen and near immortal 1v1 builds while the ones playing those said builds defend their overtuned mess with meaningless excuses. All of this while everyone knows that the chances of something changing are close to zero, what an absolute joke this has become.

I have to disagree.

before all the changes there were overtuned classes as wh/we and AM/sh, but they still needed skill to be played successfully, and they could be killed, even Rioz died a few times! I remember guys from order rollin shaman and guys from destro rollin am cos "they are easy 3 buttons classes" and then be permakilled in solo.

we are not talking of an overtuned class, we are sayn that code is broken (unintentionally certainly), and that is someway easy to abuse those bugs. Jafh is an intelligent guy for sure, he really proven he learnt how to take advantage of it.

this is not a balance issue, this is more related to problems that cames out when the system was reworked. and, as you say, we will not see changes for a long time.

anyway we see what happens.

@Jafh: anyway, if chosen is stronger than IB just go back at the first post and watch the video again, hes one of the strongest chosen of the server and had to run away cos you almost killed him. If you are not cheating then be humble and accept that the class is broken and that the reason you killed all those skilled player is not that you know which tactic is better vs them (lol). 4700/0 (lol)

But, really, anyone still has doubts??

4700/0 solo kills ratio- class is not broken. LOL- wtf i was scared by guys with 5/1 but now all of this changed my point of view! LOL

sometimes i go to drink or pee and i leave the toon there. don't you even go to pee or drink?! leave us at least 10 deaths a day. would be reasonable at least to save the appearance. 4700/0 lol

[thorunir]

If he gi tò piss and come back After One Min giving u back he still alive and he says Is normal

[F4llen4ngel]

OMG being in this list makes me brrrrrr thanks!

[Shieldslam]

This thread is nothing but a bunch of people (including me) complaining about regen and near immortal 1v1 builds while the ones playing those said builds defend their overtuned mess with meaningless excuses. All of this while everyone knows that the chances of something changing are close to zero, what an absolute joke this has become.

Not exactly. It started as you say (I am in favor of tuning down regen with it being affected by healing debuffs), but it has now became a trial in which the accused has to prove his innocence. As a lawyer, this seems awkward...

This is just running in circles at this point. Having regen be affected by healing debuffs would be nice but that only further limits down the choices you have for classes who can actually solo as anyone without one is left behind (which already is almost the case). It has indeed become some kind of personal witch hunt which I'd assume most people simply don't care about. Fact is that the initial vid perfectly showcased how boring and uninspiring the current state of solo'ing is and thus people voiced their opinions about this topic with one side heavily leaning towards essentially outright removing or tuning down this boring kind of defense stacking (defense in a general sense, regen counts into that) while the other side is arguing about this somehow being fair or balanced.