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[VoidEel]

These devs put out a +50% PvP EXP bonus in the weekend knowing damn well Order premade groups in Discord Call were going to Tank+ Healer Stack and exploit the lack of coordination in these events.

All I saw first-hand this weekend was Order having literally a near FULLY coordinated group stacked up on Center of Pragg while Destruction was full of normal players just trying to also take advantage of the weekend +50% bonus not knowing they were actually gonna get farmed 90% of the matches all day.

Like sure, maybe the premade think they're so smart for figuring out ways to grief randoms without getting banned because technically even though it's a dirty efficient strategy to farm noobs it's still legal.

And yeah I get it, people want to play with their friends they want to have fun but jesus... every game Destruction is surrendering after 2-3 attempts for Center of Pragg because a stack of 6 on Order cleverly figured out what's busted in the meta and there's no limits on certain classes and builds entering per match. Apparently the devs think players LIKE fighting godmode...

"Oh yeah just kill the backline ignore the tank, kill the healer" as one healer is getting healed by 2-3 other healers, as all the squishies in the back are getting mega-healed by others. And I can tell there's premade abuse because I catch someone SO FAR off from the group like complete different zone and suddenly 5-6 people come on horses to aid them. That's not normal for random vs random.

The match ups were so toxic I decided to ignore Center of Pragg and just try to 1 vs 1 kids coming out of spawn.

If the devs ACTUALLY don't see how gimped Destruction is compared to Order, literally I woke up and logged in to Maw instead of Inevitable City today. The WHOLE MAP was Order. Most people don't even want to 1 vs 1 me they literally struggle to run to their healers all balled up at Center of Pragg instead it's INSANE zerg mentality.

Oh but yeah I get a two week ban for mentioning this in Advice because GM Sio cares more about language filters than actual context being feedback to help keep their playerbase.

[joroth]

here's the quite part, those events get farmed by 6 man-premades all day long. If you're on destro side. people are always advertising in chat "6man rvr/sc roam need X" join those farm sc's while you get rvr bags.

As a premade you almost always don't fight another premade, because if you do you just wait 4 mins to queue then smash pugs for about 6-12k reknown for a 4 min SC

[billyk]

>Destro complains about zerging and premades

[VoidEel]

@joroth makes sense I'll try rvr/sc roam then, I didn't get to that phase yet since I got to level 36. My plan was going to be getting to 40 through Scenario queue since it's convenient and I don't know the overworld maps enough to know where big fights are. So far I only know Nordland, Ostland, and Inevitable City.

@billy yeah bro LOL if your job was isolating targets and people are grouped for hours it gets frustrating. I would've rolled a boring AoE spam class if I knew people were going to play tightly packed all day. I rolled a WE since I thought it would be fun.

[bw10]

Laughed a bit thx

[VoidEel]

@b w10 no problem lol, at least something positive out of this weekend grind

[joroth]

@joroth makes sense I'll try rvr/sc roam then, I didn't get to that phase yet since I got to level 36. My plan was going to be getting to 40 through Scenario queue since it's convenient and I don't know the overworld maps enough to know where big fights are. So far I only know Nordland, Ostland, and Inevitable City.

Even at mid-tier, find others to roam with and sc while you roam. People in this game are anti social esp during NA hours. You'll meet people by small scale roaming and scing together. Eventually, you'll build a list of people to play with and roam with. This is also why every SC feels like you're fighting a 6 man most of us are just logging on to play with the boys

This game has made me so many new life long friends from just doing this.

[VoidEel]

@joroth makes sense I'll try rvr/sc roam then, I didn't get to that phase yet since I got to level 36. My plan was going to be getting to 40 through Scenario queue since it's convenient and I don't know the overworld maps enough to know where big fights are. So far I only know Nordland, Ostland, and Inevitable City.

Even at mid-tier, find others to roam with and sc while you roam. People in this game are anti social esp during NA hours. You'll meet people by small scale roaming and scing together. Eventually, you'll build a list of people to play with and roam with. This is also why every SC feels like you're fighting a 6 man most of us are just logging on to play with the boys

This game has made me so many new life long friends from just doing this.

I'll try again in two weeks when I'm unbanned. You give me hope for this game.

[Sulorie]

Quite toxic to farm people coming out of spawn! You could at least ask them, where they want to fight you.
Btw, you really think people are shocked to find premades in weekend event SC?
People see when you fight someone in their team, so you expect nobody comes to help? Especially when all other targets are dead, everyone will ride where fights happen. Kill faster if you want to gank someone in SC.

[VoidEel]

Quite toxic to farm people coming out of spawn! You could at least ask them, where they want to fight you.
Btw, you really think people are shocked to find premades in weekend event SC?
People see when you fight someone in their team, so you expect nobody comes to help? Especially when all other targets are dead, everyone will ride where fights happen. Kill faster if you want to gank someone in SC.

It's not as toxic they get a 75% enemy damage reduction for a 15 seconds when they leave spawn. Sometimes 2 or 3 of them walk out at the same time so I end up dying to 1v3 instead, which is STILL better than fighting Center Pragg when my whole team is group wiping or half of them refuse to jump down because it's all pugs.
Matchups where I know my teams gonna get farmed and will likely surrender I can at least get a couple kills on my own fighting people leaving spawn, I have to kill them before they make it to their group otherwise they'll never split off from the group and get permanently healed through my entire DPS combo. And this is JUST to get 2-3k renown before the surrender.

It's better than just blindy running into Center Pragg repeatedly not killing a single person and then dying over and over.