Why High Elves classes so op?

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Zxul
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Re: Why High Elves classes so op?

Post#21 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:09 pm

Probably a place to put the Dark Elf racial tactics, for comparison.

10% more direct heals received, and 471 hp on killing an enemy. The joy, don't think a single Dark Elf used those in the history of AoR and RoR.
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Re: Why High Elves classes so op?

Post#22 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:55 pm

This reads like the most common complaint I've read since I started playing the game waaay back in 08. Usually it's the result of someone who thinks they're always supposed to win because they always play using discord, or some other means of game communication, and while feeling all badass running solo, got stomped on by a casual player who always runs solo. Imagine how hard a time they would have had playing on one of the old open RvR servers.

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Aethilmar
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Re: Why High Elves classes so op?

Post#23 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:24 pm

OMG we've finally made it! Someone is complaining about the elves in general.

Also, TY to the most recent updates to the population graphs you can actually get percentages on played now:

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Clearly WL is most popular mdps because, well, slayer nerf but just by 1% over WH?!?!?

SM now has parity with other Order tanks (and where did all the IB come? It used to lag hard)

AM is about as popular as other healers although if I had to guess half of them are lazor eyes.

And SW is clearly OP because it is at .... 5% WTH?!?!?

Anyway we apparently now make up about 34% of the population. Clearly overrepresented ... :roll:

Numbers are fun.

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Adelmar
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Re: Why High Elves classes so op?

Post#24 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:34 pm

Aethilmar wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:24 pm

Anyway we apparently now make up about 34% of the population. Clearly overrepresented ... :roll:

Numbers are fun.
Nerf High Elves
Adelmar (WH) - RR8X
Audari (WE) - RR7X
Contract (SW) - RR8X

Zxul
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Re: Why High Elves classes so op?

Post#25 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:37 pm

Aethilmar wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:24 pm (and where did all the IB come? It used to lag hard)
They found a very effective Gilgam copy solo roaming spec.
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Easysteps2
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Re: Why High Elves classes so op?

Post#26 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:54 pm

Yeah, I don't get it. Are you talking about ranks 1-39? Or rank 40?

Chosen/Knights are the best tanks in the game, much better than swordmasters.

Squigherders are better than shadow warriors, just check out the kill boards and DPS meters, it's all filled with top squigs.

Shamans are comparable to archmages, but seem to heal more in meters. In addition they have better escape mechanics and an OP M1.

White lions are great, but so are Choppas and Mauraders, all of them top of the damage meters.


But OK, thanks for calling my main OP. Feels good, thank you. Hype us more please, it's good for morale!

Zxul
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Re: Why High Elves classes so op?

Post#27 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:18 pm

Easysteps2 wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:54 pm Yeah, I don't get it. Are you talking about ranks 1-39? Or rank 40?

Chosen/Knights are the best tanks in the game, much better than swordmasters.

Squigherders are better than shadow warriors, just check out the kill boards and DPS meters, it's all filled with top squigs.

Shamans are comparable to archmages, but seem to heal more in meters. In addition they have better escape mechanics and an OP M1.

White lions are great, but so are Choppas and Mauraders, all of them top of the damage meters.


But OK, thanks for calling my main OP. Feels good, thank you. Hype us more please, it's good for morale!
Sms do a significantly better dmg than chosen/ kotb, which matters a lot in small scale. Compared to their mirror BO, sms are also lot less squishy as 2h.

There is a major difference between sh and sw- sw doesn't have to deal with wls. Mara doesn't has anywhere near the mobility of wl, and there are far less of them roaming. Not to mention, sws have a very effective sniper spec.

Shamans escape mechanics were nerfed long ago (10 sec cd), and shamans again have to deal with wls. Ams don't. Also, shamans "OP M1" does 600 dmg in total to someone who watches buffhead.

Choppas need guard + heals to do anything, maras don't have the mobility or the frontal burst of wl. Choppas and maras can do aoe dmg in wbs, but they don't have anywhere near the small scale abilities of wl. Not to mention the ability to put permasnaring pet on you and leg it at supersonic speed, which wls have.
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Wholdar
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Re: Why High Elves classes so op?

Post#28 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:29 pm

Neznan wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:31 pm Where to see this statistic? Any link?
Here’s a direct link to one of the graphs - https://maartenson.net/ror_graph.html?g ... order-mdps.

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Fey
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Re: Why High Elves classes so op?

Post#29 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:30 pm

Incoming High Elf racial warbands.
Fley - Zealot Domoarigobbo - Shaman
Squid - Squig Squit - B.O.
Black Toof Clan

Zxul
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Re: Why High Elves classes so op?

Post#30 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:53 pm

Fey wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:30 pm Incoming High Elf racial warbands.
On the side note, on original AoR if you made a racially pure wb, you would get renown bonuses. Mixing races was discouraged.
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