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emiliorv
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Bane shield ICD not working

Post#1 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:03 pm

looks like the ICD from dire shield ability is not working properly..."Targets can only be damaged once every 2 seconds"...on the SS posted on bugtracker there are 5/6 hits from the bane shield of same chosen on the same second...

its posted on bugtracker
https://bugs.returnofreckoning.com/view.php?id=24094

https://bugs.returnofreckoning.com/view.php?id=22868

Another thing that seems not working properly, is the stacking of same ability => 6 chosens using dire shielding tactic stacking bane shield ability...this shouldnt stack, for the same reason discordant fluctuation doesnt stack...only one of the dire shield should apply.

Looks like this ability is really stacking and also baypassing ICD...dunno if is this is a bug or working properly...but is gamebreaking. Yesterday there was a wb of chosens using this and was impossible to defend on funnels and forts.

Please, can you check tjhis on the bugtracker ¿?

https://bugs.returnofreckoning.com/view.php?id=22868 => this ticket is opened since 06/2024 (not fixed?) and clasified as "minor"...sure is minor in normal situations, but if you fill a WB with chosens doing this is really a problem.

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Re: Bane shield ICD not working

Post#2 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:42 pm

It's not bypassing ICD. Every Chosen has a rate limit on every target. Is that the right design? Idk.

The reason you are being hit multiple times by 1 Chosen's Bane Shield is not because of ICD.
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Re: Bane shield ICD not working

Post#3 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:53 pm

emiliorv wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:03 pm looks like the ICD from dire shield ability is not working properly..."Targets can only be damaged once every 2 seconds"...on the SS posted on bugtracker there are 5/6 hits from the bane shield of same chosen on the same second...

its posted on bugtracker
https://bugs.returnofreckoning.com/view.php?id=24094

Another thing that seems not working properly, is the stacking of same ability => 6 Chosens using dire shielding tactic stacking bane shield ability...this shouldnt stack, for the same reason discordant fluctuation doesnt stack..

Looks like this ability is really stacking and also baypassing ICD...dunno if is this is a bug or working properly...but is gamebreaking. Yesterday there was a wb of chosens using this and was impossible to defend on funnels and forts.

Please, can you check tjhis on the bugtracker ¿?

It's not bypassing its 2 s ICD. Each target can only be damaged once every 2 seconds per target hit that has buff and per buff that the target has.
E.g. Chosen 1, Chosen 2 and Chosen 3 (C1, C2, C3) use Bane Shield 1, Bane Shield 2 and Bane Shield 3 (B1, B2, B3) with the Dire Shielding tactic.
Then what happens is that:
  • Chosen 1 has B1, B2, B3 active on them
  • Chosen 2 has B1, B2, B3 active on them
  • Chosen 3 has B1, B2, B3 active on them
Hitting C1, C2 and C3 with an AOE ability will proc C1, C2 and C3 three times each for a total of 9 procs. If you hit them again before 2 seconds have passed you will receive no damage back. Once the 2s ICD has passed then it can proc again.

If you hit all of them, the scaling is exponential (n^2) with the number of Chosens in the party.

Regarding the stacking matter; according to other similar abilities in the game, it should be stacking as is currently.
Procs such as Shaman's 'Ere We Go can stack on the same target. Permanent/long duration procs like Discordant Fluctiation, On your Guard or Sorc's/BW's procs do not stack however. I think the stacking or non-stacking interaction depends on their uptime. Dire Shielding allows for a 17 out of 30 seconds uptime so it's closer to 'Ere We Go in how it functions.

If it's too powerful (or gamebreaking as you put it) and should therefore needs to be made to not stack, that remains a topic for the balance team to decide on.
Until that happens, however, have you perhaps tried not hitting them? :lol:
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emiliorv
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Re: Bane shield ICD not working

Post#4 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:05 pm

tickets from both bugs are still opened. if there are no bug should be closed with an explanation.

ICD should be 2 secs
Same ability shoulnd stack

If team looks ok that 24 chosens stacking same ability brake any hard aoe situation => its ok, i will take another 4 years break..there are plenty of games to have some fun (eden new season starts next week)

i always played healer clases, so no drama personally...

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Re: Bane shield ICD not working

Post#5 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:11 pm

Ere we go stacks? They nerfed it stacking years ago when rocks ran our full shaman group. Maybe they changed it back.
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Re: Bane shield ICD not working

Post#6 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:45 pm

emiliorv wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:05 pm tickets from both bugs are still opened. if there are no bug should be closed with an explanation.

ICD should be 2 secs
Same ability shoulnd stack

If team looks ok that 24 chosens stacking same ability brake any hard aoe situation => its ok, i will take another 4 years break..there are plenty of games to have some fun (eden new season starts next week)

i always played healer clases, so no drama personally...
Wait to see what else can stack to take care of healers before saying no drama 😉
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Re: Bane shield ICD not working

Post#7 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:56 pm

btw i xpierenced same, tha chosen bane shield hit u without global cooldown check, byt its like 4-5 hits on row
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there is no those 2 sec between, in fight.
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Re: Bane shield ICD not working

Post#8 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:36 pm

Working as intended :^)
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Re: Bane shield ICD not working

Post#9 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:25 pm

Stop hitting yourself.
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Re: Bane shield ICD not working

Post#10 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:33 pm

Just don’t attack and track the buff.

Just because you died to bane shield and not WL axe spin it's a bug, there's nothing that is bugged with it.
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