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Naevium
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Lack Roles Order/Destro

Post#1 » Sun Apr 06, 2025 9:39 am

Hey guys, as title Say would be know which Roles lack each side, cuz seems Order lack of tank, and destro lack of healer. This Is my vision from mid level SC, dunno in WB, which Is your think about that?

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amputationsaw
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Re: Lack Roles Order/Destro

Post#2 » Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:02 am

T4 WBs always search for tankz or healz on destro. more healz in general i guess. so playing a zealot or dok is always a good choice. shaman is pretty big in numbers already

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Neznan
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Re: Lack Roles Order/Destro

Post#3 » Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:50 am

Destro lack of that Super tanky class with excellent damage and tons of utilitys. All-in-one

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Rabenfeder
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Re: Lack Roles Order/Destro

Post#4 » Wed Apr 09, 2025 1:49 pm

As a healer on the Destro side, I'm often told that WB has too many healers. So it's less about the availability of healers and more about the fact that many people don't play SCs. I don't play SCs anymore either. If you only win one out of 30 on average, it's just no fun. And yes, it doesn't matter which side you play on. In my playthroughs, I've almost only faced organized groups. It's just not worth it.

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Re: Lack Roles Order/Destro

Post#5 » Wed Apr 09, 2025 3:07 pm

Rabenfeder wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 1:49 pm As a healer on the Destro side, I'm often told that WB has too many healers. So it's less about the availability of healers and more about the fact that many people don't play SCs. I don't play SCs anymore either. If you only win one out of 30 on average, it's just no fun. And yes, it doesn't matter which side you play on. In my playthroughs, I've almost only faced organized groups. It's just not worth it.
Your feelings doesnt show the real picture. You got kicked from warbands cos too many healers cos healer archetype doesnt function well at his primary role at orvr so each one search for open wb while most overplayed archetype aka dps do pretty (over the top even) good as solo zerg surfing so they do avoid most wb, esp pug ones.

Support classes are always in demand. Imo most valuable are good tanks. To function properly they need to be at front line so they do die more than other support archetype so ppl play them less at pug settings.
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Re: Lack Roles Order/Destro

Post#6 » Wed Apr 09, 2025 6:42 pm

Rabenfeder wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 1:49 pm As a healer on the Destro side, I'm often told that WB has too many healers. So it's less about the availability of healers and more about the fact that many people don't play SCs. I don't play SCs anymore either. If you only win one out of 30 on average, it's just no fun. And yes, it doesn't matter which side you play on. In my playthroughs, I've almost only faced organized groups. It's just not worth it.
improve. look for a premade and enjoy being part of the side that's crushing people who are to lazy to form something organised :)

Also regarding the topic.
As i am in a place where i can play tank and heal on both sides i would say tanks are most needed. just my own observation though.
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Bloodkiss
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Re: Lack Roles Order/Destro

Post#7 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 2:30 am

Destro lack of White lion :mrgreen:

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Re: Lack Roles Order/Destro

Post#8 » Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:14 am

Well I can answer for Destro. I don't spend as much time on Order but I can say they do have WAY more tank than Destro. (Especially IronBreaker, the Black Guard mirror.)

As far as Warband play. If you want to provide for Destro, Black Guards / Blacks Orc are in high demand. Naturally, shield preferred.

Chosens just doesn't have best output in term of fostering a DPS in the traditional 2/2/2. As for Funneling, curse ain't as great as KotB and it really shows when facing order or playing as order. HOWEVER, as Destro just have a dire need for tanks, A Chosen is usually very welcome as much as the BG / BO.

As far as healer, well people usually expect you to heal. So DPS specs are for small roams / solo generally. As someone who spend more time on Destro I am not sure how Order players tolerate DPS healers but they seems to be more accepting of DPS Archmage than what Destro accepts DPS Shaman. In a Warband they all have their spot. Disciple of Khain and Shaman are more common but always in demand. Zealot is great as well but you can get away by not stacking them.

Last DPS, not generally in big demand (Due to being the most popular role.) but they always have room and it is not impossible to join a pug / organized warband. Choppa / Marauder are generally the highest demand as they provide many quality to a warband such as pulls and knockdown from the Marauder.

Sorcerer(ess) are great as well, buffing a party up and providing big damage / pressure. While of course not making it more chill for healers (generally).

Witch Elf are not very desired, which even as a WE main, I got to be honest about. But sometimes... BIG sometimes. They're taken in organized warband for the scouter or having providing they got the On Your Knee's moral pump (Which is rare nowadays).

Magus / Squig Herder are never a priority on Destro. I think Magus is good, doing some decent abilities and great damage as well, it just doesn't buff the Warband so therefore, why it not as wanted. And Squig Herder just... don't really do anything special. Good class, just better for roaming, but in a pug they won't kick for playing one. Organized Warbands might be more difficult to join however but it happens you see 1 or 2.

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Re: Lack Roles Order/Destro

Post#9 » Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:28 pm

Pulptenks wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:14 am As someone who spend more time on Destro I am not sure how Order players tolerate DPS healers but they seems to be more accepting of DPS Archmage than what Destro accepts DPS Shaman.
Core difference - on order less pug leaders use auto band. Also(except last few days) order have less active oRvR player base - less base, less opportunity to pick.

Other thing is the same, lack of tanks, less lack of true healers, problems with dps(sw-engi-wh are not welcome in wb).

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Re: Lack Roles Order/Destro

Post#10 » Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:41 pm

Its actually pretty funny having folks say Destro needs more tanks. I know I think (as a primarily Order player) that Order needs more tanks. The truth is, apparantly both sides do since they seem to have almost the same amount of them. Confirmation bias indeed.

Anyway you can see from the graphs from https://maartenson.net/ror_graph.html listed below, the role distribution is actually pretty evenly split. There are class breakouts you can view there that will tell you which classes are more or less played (for a variety of reasons).

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