About WL's pet

[Battlefield]

In scenarios when there a lot of melee dps Lion's pet dies too fast from aoe of Choppa, melee SH, Marauder, aoe of Magus in 5 seconds.

So, don't you think it needs to give some damage reduction to Lion's pet from aoe damage? Or increase healing numbers to pet? Or reduce a cooldown on it?

Or another option Lion's pet will get aoe group healing from healers it needs in melee blob.

Because the pet is part of the class, like the Marauder's mutated arm.

[Pahakukka]

In scenarios when there a lot of melee dps Lion's pet dies too fast from aoe of Choppa, melee SH, Marauder, aoe of Magus in 5 seconds.

So, don't you think it needs to give some damage reduction to Lion's pet from aoe damage? Or increase healing numbers to pet? Or reduce a cooldown on it?

Because the pet is part of the class, like the Marauder's mutated arm.

This is a niche problem, but buffing wl pet any further will essentially kill any remaining dps spec solo roaming on destro side as it is near impossible to counter even as it is. Only thing i have found is high parry/riposte spec to even counter the pet, but then there is very little to do to prevent wl summoning new one. 15 s cd isnt that long. Wl can kite that 15 s fairly easily and pop new pet on the go.

[Ruin]

The stat conversion for Pets is badly design and could use a fresh look IMHO.

[salazarn]

In scenarios when there a lot of melee dps Lion's pet dies too fast from aoe of Choppa, melee SH, Marauder, aoe of Magus in 5 seconds.

So, don't you think it needs to give some damage reduction to Lion's pet from aoe damage? Or increase healing numbers to pet? Or reduce a cooldown on it?

Because the pet is part of the class, like the Marauder's mutated arm.

This is a niche problem, but buffing wl pet any further will essentially kill any remaining dps spec solo roaming on destro side as it is near impossible to counter even as it is. Only thing i have found is high parry/riposte spec to even counter the pet, but then there is very little to do to prevent wl summoning new one. 15 s cd isnt that long. Wl can kite that 15 s fairly easily and pop new pet on the go.

I didn't think WL was a big contender solo at all. Risky to play as you gotta all in. Squishy. I wouldve thought chosen / mara and regen welf all edged it out in a straight fight. Still dont want pet buffs tho

[Pahakukka]

In scenarios when there a lot of melee dps Lion's pet dies too fast from aoe of Choppa, melee SH, Marauder, aoe of Magus in 5 seconds.

So, don't you think it needs to give some damage reduction to Lion's pet from aoe damage? Or increase healing numbers to pet? Or reduce a cooldown on it?

Because the pet is part of the class, like the Marauder's mutated arm.

This is a niche problem, but buffing wl pet any further will essentially kill any remaining dps spec solo roaming on destro side as it is near impossible to counter even as it is. Only thing i have found is high parry/riposte spec to even counter the pet, but then there is very little to do to prevent wl summoning new one. 15 s cd isnt that long. Wl can kite that 15 s fairly easily and pop new pet on the go.

I didn't think WL was a big contender solo at all. Risky to play as you gotta all in. Squishy. I wouldve thought chosen / mara and regen welf all edged it out in a straight fight. Still dont want pet buffs tho

Sustain always outclasses dps, but with the current AA dmg and frontloaded dmg from wl there is very few contenders against wl. Speedtactic+cc immunity to pet makes it near impossible to kite. If you burst the pet down Good wl kites you and pops new one. I have had case where i couldnt double click (we opener+kd) a skills with no gcd between,that were assigned to the same mouse button in time to have the pet kd on me.
this was extreme case tho, and hasnt happened often. Wl also knew i was coming and had the command in.
Also its not uncommon to take 4-6hits per tick with coordinated strike/aa/leonide frenzy.

Im not saying you cant fight them, but out of classes i play riposte spec has been only winner. But that passive gameplay is something i wish we would move forward from.

[salazarn]

Ye glass cannon welf is gonna get torn a new one by a white lion.

[Pahakukka]

Any dps really.

[REWENGA]

one of the highest burst if not the highest, ranged KD, best antikite, amazing kiter, I cant find another toon with WL mobility and DPS.

most toon (not pets) are melted in AOE but you want your pet to stand steady.

You want more, and I understand. I would debuff damage to all aoe destro classes, so your pet can safely get in the middle of the blob. Lets start a poll so the devs will sort it out asap

Wait i have a better idea, lets give full damage immunity to lion pet, still wonder if itshould be affected by CC ... oh wait...

[lemao]

Slot revenge

[Farrul]

In scenarios when there a lot of melee dps Lion's pet dies too fast from aoe of Choppa, melee SH, Marauder, aoe of Magus in 5 seconds.

So, don't you think it needs to give some damage reduction to Lion's pet from aoe damage? Or increase healing numbers to pet? Or reduce a cooldown on it?

Because the pet is part of the class, like the Marauder's mutated arm.

This is a niche problem, but buffing wl pet any further will essentially kill any remaining dps spec solo roaming on destro side as it is near impossible to counter even as it is. Only thing i have found is high parry/riposte spec to even counter the pet, but then there is very little to do to prevent wl summoning new one. 15 s cd isnt that long. Wl can kite that 15 s fairly easily and pop new pet on the go.

It is not really a niche problem. Pets were incomplete design in AOR and remains so in RoR.

There are many things in Warhammer online that needed more development from Mythic. You can tell the game was incomplete and rushed to be launched by looking at stuff like PETs and unfinished animations etc ( i.e no arrows on bows). Just look at World of Warcraft at that time for a comparison, pets that were viable in large scale battleground battles. Neither Hunters nor Warlocks (pet classes) had to discard pets because of Area of effect damage. It had a solid system.

For pets to be viable in large scale they must mitigate AOE damage to a large extent and be way tankier overall. Especially melee pets, otherwise you get a situation like with the WL pet who is really only viable in smaller scale fights. WL with pets out are observerd in 6 mans roaming the map or solo players but collapses during any zerg battle. Ranged pets are better off since they're further away from harm but still suffers from the fundamental design flaw.

As for 1vs1 for squishy destro dps vs White lions, the Lion pets are powerful in this situation but is none the less in general one of the most flawed aspects of the game, hence the OP has a point. It has to overcompensate in strong ability to hide the fact that it falls short in so many different ways.

In a well crafted pet system the pet would be viable for all content and not a object of complaint in any situation. Just an extension of the class as it should be. In RoRs most competitive content it is replaced by a tactics(loner). This says it all unfortunately.