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Bozzax
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#11 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:27 pm

Since solo deaths are under represented by deaths to shamans this is pure bs

Secondly there are never any shamans topping weekly or monthly killers lists so 100% fictional

Ps. Fun facts AMs are more visible in kill stats by a wide margin
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sven85z
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#12 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:39 pm

Just go hybrid spec on shamans with toughness and run away tactic.

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Bozzax
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#13 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:43 pm

Stats don’t back this up sry
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#14 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:16 pm

give slayer gtdc and u will see wl population switch back to slayers.
and bw - aoe knockdown instead of knockback
dont forgeta bout our rogues too.
buff these and wl population will be reduced
p.s nerf wl/squig pounce
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gersy
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#15 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:34 pm

agree to nerf or change WL, i think that is really obvious.

not sure how can you think shaman needs buff or is weak right now though. it's insanely strong post-rework, especially dps build. i'm playing it in all smallscale size parties and scenarios lately from soloing to 6mans and having a fantastic time. the burst is really high after rework (about 3500-5500 1second burst easily with a proper timestamp and 6-7k 3second burst, if you play with zealot in your party you can go even higher these are just some typical examples of damage i'm seeing). also you have many tools at your disposal to safely farm renown/crests in almost any circumstances (zergsurf, 1v1, etc).

as for healing shaman, it's as strong as ever too, although i feel like juggling the mechanic is a bit more janky than it was pre-rework.
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Bozzax
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#16 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:02 pm

Well several classes are stronger in a group and that isn’t solo context

Example mrd / squiggyy properly played are both stronger

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yoluigi
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#17 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:10 pm

A good squig player is way stronger than WL. the squig pet can hit and be bugged somewhere you dont know soo you cant really detaunt it. lol all pets are way stronger since the global cooldown change. IMO for solo Magus,shaman, squig, AM is S tier since they are ranged and can keep using abilities + they super tanky if they want to be. WL are strong against ranged destro class meta but any destro tank at bis can beat them with a good build and good play. I myself thinking of making a WL since it's the only counter for them am tired of all my classes i play (WP,IB and few others) get melted by Magus,squig,shaman, dps zeolot .

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Bozzax
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#18 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:26 pm

I suggest you do
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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#19 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:27 pm

Bozzax wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:27 pm Since solo deaths are under represented by deaths to shamans this is pure bs

Secondly there are never any shamans topping weekly or monthly killers lists so 100% fictional

Ps. Fun facts AMs are more visible in kill stats by a wide margin
Where are these stats available?

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Re: White Lion Nerf when?

Post#20 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:40 pm

yoluigi wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:10 pm A good squig player is way stronger than WL. the squig pet can hit and be bugged somewhere you dont know soo you cant really detaunt it. lol all pets are way stronger since the global cooldown change. IMO for solo Magus,shaman, squig, AM is S tier since they are ranged and can keep using abilities + they super tanky if they want to be. WL are strong against ranged destro class meta but any destro tank at bis can beat them with a good build and good play. I myself thinking of making a WL since it's the only counter for them am tired of all my classes i play (WP,IB and few others) get melted by Magus,squig,shaman, dps zeolot .
How does one go about making a tanky AM? I dont play solo but as a healer it would be great to know how better to survive :-)

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