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Neznan
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How to understand if it is "Magic" ?

Post#1 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 10:26 am

One of Mara skills say:

- Target receive "XXX" damage whenewer they use Magic.

Sooo, my question is - How to understand if it is MAGIC skill or not??? By what crtiteria you can understand if it is MAGIC?

Thanks for explanations
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leftayparxoun
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Re: How to understand if it is "Magic" ?

Post#2 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 10:52 am

Magical damaging attacks are all damaging attacks from careers who use magic weapons:
- Sorc/BW
- Shaman/AM
- Zealot/Runepriest
- Magus
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Neznan
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Re: How to understand if it is "Magic" ?

Post#3 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 10:58 am

leftayparxoun wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 10:52 am Magical damaging attacks are all damaging attacks from careers who use magic weapons:
- Sorc/BW
- Shaman/AM
- Zealot/Runepriest
- Magus


So "Magic" belongs to a Weapon? or to a Class?

1. If I carry Staff - it means that all my attacks are considered as "magic"?
2. If I am Shaman - All my attacks are Magic? Including heals?
3. What about heals from DOK/WP ?

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leftayparxoun
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Re: How to understand if it is "Magic" ?

Post#4 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 11:53 am

Neznan wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 10:58 am
So "Magic" belongs to a Weapon? or to a Class?

1. If I carry Staff - it means that all my attacks are considered as "magic"?
2. If I am Shaman - All my attacks are Magic? Including heals?
3. What about heals from DOK/WP ?

Thanks

It belongs to the class technically I'd say. The melee auto attacks all those classes do are considered melee damage though.

1. There is no such thing as magical weapons. It all comes down to the class. Both Witch Elf and Zealot use daggers, but Zealot's ability damage is magical and WE's is melee.
2. As Shaman, all your damaging attacks (beside AAs) are magical. Unsure about the classification of heals (would have to check the ability database which is down currently) but it does not matter what classification your heals have since, to my knowledge, all abilities/tactics that are conditional about ability types are only so about damage.
3. Same as above.
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Fenris78
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Re: How to understand if it is "Magic" ?

Post#5 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 12:27 pm

It's a bit messy indeed, since pretty much every class in the game got access to magical damaging skills, but are more or less mainly doing physical damage.

For example tanks got 2-3 magical damaging skills, with the notable exception of Swordmaster going 75-100% spirit damage.

DPS all got magical damages in a form or another (Corporeal damaging proc for Slayer/Choppa/Marauder, spirit/corpo procs for Witch Elves and Witch Hunters, Corporeal damage for Ingeneer, etc).

Shortly put on ; you cannot determine with combat log alone if a skill is Physical or magical, you need to know every skill and/or look in career builder to see if it's magic or not.

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leftayparxoun
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Re: How to understand if it is "Magic" ?

Post#6 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 12:35 pm

Fenris78 wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 12:27 pm It's a bit messy indeed, since pretty much every class in the game got access to magical damaging skills, but are more or less mainly doing physical damage.

For example tanks got 2-3 magical damaging skills, with the notable exception of Swordmaster going 75-100% spirit damage.

DPS all got magical damages in a form or another (Corporeal damaging proc for Slayer/Choppa/Marauder, spirit/corpo procs for Witch Elves and Witch Hunters, Corporeal damage for Ingeneer, etc).

Shortly put on ; you cannot determine with combat log alone if a skill is Physical or magical, you need to know every skill and/or look in career builder to see if it's magic or not.

I always like to refer to Spiritual, Elemental and Corporeal damage as "non-physical" damage.
Calling it "magical" can be confusing for new players when it comes to conditional abilities like this.

Chosen does Spiritual Melee damage
Shaman does Elemental Magic damage
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Re: How to understand if it is "Magic" ?

Post#7 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 1:14 pm

In the end its all down to single skill which you are actually asking about
"- Target receive "XXX" damage whenewer they use Magic"
Check up in database (https://war-abilityviewer.dalen.io/) your exact skill and ask proper questions.
In database you can check any skill and figure if its "magic" or not. You've got proper Only's response for question you ask, but i can bet you want to know different thing and just fail to ask it.
I assume you want to check up on your "ability" and know better what it affects and what not and then Only's response starts to lose sense as abilities which do affect players interactions (aka X happens then player does Y) have exceptions.

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Neznan
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Re: How to understand if it is "Magic" ?

Post#8 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 10:25 pm

nocturnalguest wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 1:14 pm In the end its all down to single skill which you are actually asking about
"- Target receive "XXX" damage whenewer they use Magic"
Check up in database (https://war-abilityviewer.dalen.io/) your exact skill and ask proper questions.
In database you can check any skill and figure if its "magic" or not. You've got proper Only's response for question you ask, but i can bet you want to know different thing and just fail to ask it.
I assume you want to check up on your "ability" and know better what it affects and what not and then Only's response starts to lose sense as abilities which do affect players interactions (aka X happens then player does Y) have exceptions.
Actially I have receive answer to my question with good amount of discussion.
I wasn't looking for a primitive answer, that is booring you know.

.... BTW Your link ins't working.
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