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Alubert
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Post#1 » Sun Nov 23, 2025 7:07 am

I think it's time to put an end to mindless aoe blob. What's been happening lately is a slap in the face to the game.
To my horror, 12-man teams are now aspiring to small scale!
We should start working on mechanics that make playing in a blob as unbeneficial as possible (the LoD solution of debuffing stats is the worst solution).

I suggest starting with small steps.
1. Aoe cap 9 celi - I don't need to explain why.
2. All heals in the game must go directly and exclusively to the healer party so as not to strengthen the zerg.
A. WP/DoK MB/KR - slightly stronger heal but only hits the party.
B. Shaman/AM FoDG/EoV - stronger heal but only hits the party.
C. Shaman/AM 3 target hot tactic - only hits the party.
D. RP/Zeal RoS/LA - stronger heal but only hits the party.
3. The last bonus tanks def sove affects the entire party and not others around them.
4. Reduction of aoe skills damage, especially wl/mara (although this is likely to be addressed in the upcoming dps balance patch) or doubling their CD.

First, we need to make sure that being in a blob does not give any benefits from others in the blob.
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Aethilmar
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Post#2 » Sun Nov 23, 2025 8:24 am

I am confused as to what exactly you find objectionable about "the blob".

Does it result in things dying too fast (per your AOE reduction comments)?

Are things not dying fast enough (per your OOP heal nerf comments)?

Or do you think that what you have above will somehow get people to split up more?

Your suggestions seem contradictory and there is no clear mechanical reason for them to break up "the blob" or reduce "blob play" or whatever you are trying to suggest become the new norm of play.

Might help if you clearly define what you are hoping to see happen (e.g. more roaming six man's) and then it can be evaluated against that.
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Alubert
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Post#3 » Sun Nov 23, 2025 8:55 am

Generally, as you may have read, this serves to:
1. Reduce AoE (standing in a group and spamming AoE should not bring benefits as the most primitive style of play).
2. Keep the game party-oriented.
3. Reduce the bonuses from healing outside the party so that the zerg does not benefit from it.
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Sygma013
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Post#4 » Sun Nov 23, 2025 9:38 am

I suggest starting with small steps.
1. Aoe cap 9 celi - I don't need to explain why.
in the past the devs did reduce cap from 24 to 9 and forum listerally crashed on fire with Bombling cryuing and shouting 24/7 of WHYMMASPECZ!!!!
2. All heals in the game must go directly and exclusively to the healer party so as not to strengthen the zerg.
target heals must work outside party otherwise would make healers basically worthless or full healers warbands
4. Reduction of aoe skills damage, especially wl/mara (although this is likely to be addressed in the upcoming dps balance patch) or doubling their CD.
WIll never happen. average meme ror guild just run blob strategy and will never switch to something more tactical simply because there is no real benefit inRVR.

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Brakh
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Post#5 » Sun Nov 23, 2025 9:58 am

Blobbing should feel like a bad experience for players, something they internally want to avoid. The overall idea with with LotD debuff was not that bad but it was utilized only in combat situations. How about to implement % speed debuff simulating sluggish movement of such mass?

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