[scenarios] barriers

[Bozzax]

Let me rephrase
The direction of sc development last decade has been made from the perspective of a small minority of wrong ppl

The result speaks for itself

[calipso]

In short sc direction and development has been spearheaded by people not playing scenarios for 10 years

Quite the opposite, it was made by/with suggestions from the people who spammed scenarios mostly with a 6 man party at the time

Are you referring to ranked or normal scenarios?
I doubt there is proof where 6 man proposed to add barriers and move guards on regular scenarios, on the contrary, they have been very vocal on how bad normal scenarios are working nowadays.
And, in case they were promoting normal scenarios to be a slaughter, change made by Dev was really bad. Since scenario had room for every single style of game play, solo, duo, 3m and so on, change, again, was implemented without any thought, for obvious reasons.

[agemennon675]

In short sc direction and development has been spearheaded by people not playing scenarios for 10 years

Quite the opposite, it was made by/with suggestions from the people who spammed scenarios mostly with a 6 man party at the time

Are you referring to ranked or normal scenarios?
I doubt there is proof where 6 man proposed to add barriers and move guards on regular scenarios, on the contrary, they have been very vocal on how bad normal scenarios are working nowadays.
And, in case they were promoting normal scenarios to be a slaughter, change made by Dev was really bad. Since scenario had room for every single style of game play, solo, duo, 3m and so on, change, again, was implemented without any thought, for obvious reasons.

Yes we see a lot of feedback about the scenarios in the forums lately I am just trying to explain why these changes made months ago I am referring to the changes to scenario matchmaker/adding barriers and kicking players that wait in spawn etc. they were all made by player suggestions I am sure you can find videos of it from streamers channels when these changes were made

[calipso]

Quite the opposite, it was made by/with suggestions from the people who spammed scenarios mostly with a 6 man party at the time

Are you referring to ranked or normal scenarios?
I doubt there is proof where 6 man proposed to add barriers and move guards on regular scenarios, on the contrary, they have been very vocal on how bad normal scenarios are working nowadays.
And, in case they were promoting normal scenarios to be a slaughter, change made by Dev was really bad. Since scenario had room for every single style of game play, solo, duo, 3m and so on, change, again, was implemented without any thought, for obvious reasons.

Yes we see a lot of feedback about the scenarios in the forums lately I am just trying to explain why these changes made months ago I am referring to the changes to scenario matchmaker/adding barriers and kicking players that wait in spawn etc. they were all made by player suggestions I am sure you can find videos of it from streamers channels when these changes were made

It is very interesting you mentioned streamers, beacuse there was ONLY one who talked about those changes to be implemented, straight to a well known person, a year ago (we know who). That weekend barriers were added.
Everything kept on his stream video.
I won’t be redundant over the matter, but proof was given to Team, for them to see why such patch was up and running, since many voices raised over the forum against change. That video was removed next day, yet was part of his video collection for weeks.
Coincidence? I think not.
After that, Devs made a thread asking “how to improve scenarios”, which i mentioned in another post.
Before this, you can’t find any post nor other streams crying out loud for barriers to be added, non of that.
Funny thing is, same guy asking for that change ain’t playing anymore. Perhaps he ended up so many times slaughtered, decided to stop. Bit of own medicine can be overwhelming.
So im going to toss you same task, check for streamers or proof that 6m preamde allegedly called for such patch.

[Aethilmar]

Ps quitter should be taken out as well as it actually increases the frequency of **** lineups and gives strong sides to high crest earnings. Let scs end by playing the objectives instead of teaching players objectives are secondary

Calling this out in general because it is super important. This and the .surrender option was added to "fix" a problem of the devs own making and all it did, in the end, was teach people to to surrender instead of learning how to play in a SC. Even groups sometimes need some time to figure out how to deal with the other team and forcing people out into a meat grinder is just a miserable gaming experience.