WE and WHs changes made the game booring any fixes?

[Avernus]

1.If you have a decent team with decent tanks CC should never be an issue ??
2. Mara dps dok and dps wp are also S tier in 6 man , they do not have much cc aswell ?
3. Idk maybe you play with bots
4. What 3 tactics, revenge counts as a tactic and if your pet dies the dmg increase you gain acually tops the overall dmg you gain from crit dmg

1. Correct. Still, an option to do the thing yourself is always better than rely on someone, unless you are playing with the same (good) team.
2. Correct. No stupid pet, incoming healing debuff, some additional stuff (like purge/debuff cleanse and self heal for DoK/WP or wounds debuff and pull on demand for mara).
3. Nice try
4. You must slot +crit power+revenge to be able to deal damage most of the time (which means that you are effectively playing 3 tactic at any given moment - and, occasionally, for a 6 seconds - with 2 tactics only). And, sadly, pet does add some damage (when it actually attacks your target) which means that revenge is not that far ahead of your usual damage.

[Shieldslam]

If you don't leave WC with a group/wb you might as well just afk and wait since you won't get far anyway without being farmed by a WE/WH (or entire group of them). There's no counterplay to KD out of stealth. There is no counterplay to stealth in general actually (intiative is RNG and a meme). If any other class comes at you you visually see them and can decide wether you want to engage them or not. WH/WE just do not give a damn and force you into a fight, on top of that they can also just disengage for free and get away at any point.
Neither of them are in a healthy and fair place, not even close. WH globals people out of stealth in a single KD with BaL (while having 100% parry for 12 sec), WE gets a bunch of stats blown up her *** for some reason and is near impossible to kite with resetting leap. Of course people play them, they are literally easy mode for playing solo and are still viable in a group/wb setting.