Black list to Marauder/WL?

[kleinbuchstabe]

Skill issue

Thanks for trolling. Now crawl back under your bridge.

Again: This spam of "skill issue" without any try to help, go into detail, or refute the argument, is nothig else but toxic behaviour, and spread bad vibes.
If you cant even give, or refuse to give at least one single valid argument, why there is a skill issue from your pov, then the skill issue is obviously on you. Since this seem to became a trend, I would like to see a change in the the forum rules, to punish this toxic trolling behavior.It is on purpose, doesnt help anyone and only causes harm for the culture of discussion in the Forum.

[Amakusa]

Mara is more than fine.
Get a guard and heal with a brain and you are good.

Or just roll a rdps and play SC till you meet Barakus and you will see what a mara can do, if played by a good player ;P

[Amakusa]

Skill issue

Thanks for trolling. Now crawl back under your bridge.

Again: This spam of "skill issue" without any try to help, go into detail, or refute the argument, is nothig else but toxic behaviour, and spread bad vibes.
If you cant even give, or refuse to give at least one single valid argument, why there is a skill issue from your pov, then the skill issue is obviously on you. Since this seem to became a trend, I would like to see a change in the the forum rules, to punish this toxic trolling behavior.It is on purpose, doesnt help anyone and only causes harm for the culture of discussion in the Forum.

Or maybe ppl start to use the forum search ;P
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=61078

[kleinbuchstabe]

Or maybe ppl start to use the forum search ;P
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=61078

Yes sure, people could help themselves. But isnt an advice or posting a link, like you did here, far better and constructive, than humilating poeple with "skill issue"? This is a froum, its made to ask questions and get advices, and people should not get humilated or trolled for doing so.

[Ashoris]

skill issue

It’s obvious that Bozego is returning to the Marauder class after a while, and instead of offering some advice, you’re spewing spite.
Make yourself useful or keep quiet.

+1
Some of these loudmouths need to be shut up. They have nothing meaningful to contribute. Either you go into detail, try to help, or refute the argument. But nobody needs this arrogant “skill issue” or “l2p” stuff.

While i agree with you in general ... its a problem of both parties in this thread - the first one who says class = bad instead questioning what can be done to do better.
On the other hand - the ppl here who write l2p without any explanation - are aswell a specific type of "Loudmouths"....


If the Marauder troubles you it is a "change your attitude/l2p" ask yourself what you want, an AoE Mara that has trouble to kill soemthign solo but can bring pressure with other AoE classes together and is "hard to kill" or a single DPS mara who is execptionally well equipped to kill ranged dps (2 different useful m1, charge AND Pull).

[gersy]

skill issue

It’s obvious that Bozego is returning to the Marauder class after a while, and instead of offering some advice, you’re spewing spite.
Make yourself useful or keep quiet.

+1

Some of these loudmouths need to be shut up. They have nothing meaningful to contribute. Either you go into detail, try to help, or refute the argument. But nobody needs this arrogant “skill issue” or “l2p” stuff.

so the thing about it is that many of us have spent dozens of hours trying to give the right info, backed by mathematics/logic/examples, to dispel all these confidently wrong misconceptions and misbeliefs - just like in all the other similar threads.

every single time, without fail, it ends up with a tremendous amount of pushback from people who have absolutely no clue what they're talking about, no clue how the game work and next to no clue how to play the game properly all whilst constructing their arguments over stuff like 1v1 duels, etc.

just like in the dps dok/wp thread, the WE threads, the shield dok/WP threads, etc. where there was multiple of the highest exp possible players in the game (multiple time rank 1 solo/group ranked players, players with dozens of sweaty org cities played and won, players with immense amounts of inhouse/scrim experience, etc) trying to help and teach people only to get met by idiotic responses in the face of reality.

so at this point, many "arrogant loudmouths", have become tired of trying to convince people of objective truths when the people making these threads are bad actors who refuse to learn, improve or listen to reason. therefore the reply from now on will be "not again", "skill issue" or "no" unless a person or thread actually has some merit and truly wants to learn instead of spewing biased misinformed garbage then arguing when all the facts are presented to them wrapped with a bow.

both classes are in a fantastic spot currently. it is an understanding issue if you think otherwise but it becomes a skill issue if you continue to think otherwise after people tell you what you're doing wrong and how to fix it. there was already a mara thread very recently which gave nice info on how to play it build/gear wise with one of the commenters being one of the top ST mara player (dps player in general) the game has ever seen. that thread appears to have already been linked. i want you to compare how that thread's OP constructed their post with how this one is constructed and you will see what i mean by "if there is merit which warrants helping".

[Ashoris]

have become tired of trying to convince people of objective truths when the people making these threads are bad actors who refuse to learn, improve or listen to reason. therefore the reply from now on will be "not again", "skill issue" or "no"

And this is the exact moment were it went from "decent Player" tries to help or simply "Decent Player" to "arrogant loudmouths". Writing NOTHING would have been the smart and "decent" choice.

Dont get me wrong - i fully agree with the most part of what you wrote ... but let us keep the short arrogant l2p answers for the "repeating Loudmouths" of the other side and not the first timers and new ones.

[kleinbuchstabe]

have become tired of trying to convince people of objective truths when the people making these threads are bad actors who refuse to learn, improve or listen to reason. therefore the reply from now on will be "not again", "skill issue" or "no"

And this is the exact moment were it went from "decent Player" tries to help or simply "Decent Player" to "arrogant loudmouths". Writing NOTHING would have been the smart and "decent" choice.

Dont get me wrong - i fully agree with the most part of what you wrote ... but let us keep the short arrogant l2p answers for the "repeating Loudmouths" of the other side and not the first timers and new ones.

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[Farrul]

just like in the dps dok/wp thread, the WE threads, the shield dok/WP threads, etc. where there was multiple of the highest exp possible players in the game (multiple time rank 1 solo/group ranked players, players with dozens of sweaty org cities played and won, players with immense amounts of inhouse/scrim experience, etc) trying to help and teach people only to get met by idiotic responses in the face of reality.

Actually, no.

To anyone reading. Never confuse WE threads with other class threads and try to generalize it. WE is a seperate issue in the small scale scene which has been pointed out clearly time after time again by well constructed arguments, experienced players, where exactly the balance problem lies. In those threads some WE players are trying hard though to gaslight others.

[noronn]

have become tired of trying to convince people of objective truths when the people making these threads are bad actors who refuse to learn, improve or listen to reason. therefore the reply from now on will be "not again", "skill issue" or "no"

And this is the exact moment were it went from "decent Player" tries to help or simply "Decent Player" to "arrogant loudmouths". Writing NOTHING would have been the smart and "decent" choice.

Dont get me wrong - i fully agree with the most part of what you wrote ... but let us keep the short arrogant l2p answers for the "repeating Loudmouths" of the other side and not the first timers and new ones.

This

Honestly? You of all people are the best example of what Gersy said about people bricking actual people with knowledge. Someone told me what charname you supposedly play under. I have no clue if that even is you but if it is I faintly remember the name being connected to beware.

If that’s the case you are in no position to claim being in the top tier of players gameplay and knowledge wise. Please correct me if I’m wrong. Most of what you say in the threads is completely against the usual voices of reason. So… stop calling people trolls please.

Thank you.