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ArkeosGR
Posts: 2

Rerolling to BM

Post#1 » Mon Aug 03, 2026 8:38 am

Hello guys,

i am thinking to reroll to a BM which will be first time for me.

Could you sum up in a few points, how does the class fare in pvp in general these days?

Mind you, i am a new player.

Ty!

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lumpi33
Posts: 656

Re: Rerolling to BM

Post#2 » Mon Aug 03, 2026 9:24 am

BW is a bit of a rough class as new player. They are fun in low and mid tier but once you hit t4 you will notice that they are falling behind the other dps a lot. That wont really change with end gear. The disrupts are high, draftback damage all the time, no real escape abilities in a squishy cloth armor and not that great damage either to justify all these downsides. Prepare to die in seconds from melees in t4.

Read
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=61135
and
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=61125

As new player you are better of choosing Magus or Engi. If you want an easier to play class then Chosen or Knight.

ArkeosGR
Posts: 2

Re: Rerolling to BM

Post#3 » Mon Aug 03, 2026 10:20 am

I started as SW because i like ranged dps classes and wanted to play for Order. Aw you probably know sw is getting gutted soon enough so i wanted to find a semi decent alternative which would keep the fun of playing for me. Guess then BM isnt that choice either and for order the only viable ranged choice at this point is engi. Way to go gms, GGs on ur class balancing.

nocturnalguest
Posts: 994

Re: Rerolling to BM

Post#4 » Mon Aug 03, 2026 11:51 am

Take a look here for somewhat current AoE gameplay
Or take a look how elite solo roamers peform here (its outdated, now its gonna be harder)

Your regular experience will more likely look how Lumpi describes tho, however its not class issue but rather player issue. Also i strongly dont recommend magus/engi for newcomer, those both have high ceilling for organised play and majority of players play those two classes horribly.
I'd support the advice to start on an easy tank, like kotbs/chosen or easy healer rp/zealot or book/chalice wp/dok. Learn general combat first then play whatever you like. Less frustration

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Kyouaku
Posts: 109

Re: Rerolling to BM

Post#5 » Mon Aug 03, 2026 12:34 pm

ArkeosGR wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2026 8:38 am Hello guys,

i am thinking to reroll to a BM which will be first time for me.

Could you sum up in a few points, how does the class fare in pvp in general these days?

Mind you, i am a new player.

Ty!
It's a very good class, but you have to put a lot of work into making sure you can play it right. Ive seen rr90~ BWs that suck, and others that are amazing and always great to have on my team. I dont think BW is casual friendly at all

IMO, play what you enjoy and any class can do very well if played well, SW will probably still be great

In SCs and roaming, mos things have very little disrupt, and magic damage is amazing because its resists are capped so low and debuffable.It also bypasses amelee DPS's m1 parry/dodge 100%

Tulrs
Posts: 4

Re: Rerolling to BM

Post#6 » Mon Aug 03, 2026 1:28 pm

Kyouaku wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2026 12:34 pm
ArkeosGR wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2026 8:38 am Hello guys,

i am thinking to reroll to a BM which will be first time for me.

Could you sum up in a few points, how does the class fare in pvp in general these days?

Mind you, i am a new player.

Ty!
It's a very good class, but you have to put a lot of work into making sure you can play it right. Ive seen rr90~ BWs that suck, and others that are amazing and always great to have on my team. I dont think BW is casual friendly at all

IMO, play what you enjoy and any class can do very well if played well, SW will probably still be great

In SCs and roaming, mos things have very little disrupt, and magic damage is amazing because its resists are capped so low and debuffable.It also bypasses amelee DPS's m1 parry/dodge 100%
As an 82 BW, I can't recommend someone rolling one. Also, please do not listen to this feedback. Disrupt rates are incredibly high. Even with about 19% strikethrough as BIS (best in slot/max gear) - about 1/4 of your spells are getting disrupted. And FORGET about even trying to hit a dealer.

If you're looking for a RDPS, DPS AM is probably your best bet. They're incredibly fun to play, have high kite capabilities, and fit into most roam/skirmish groups. A lot of their abilities have strikethrough built into them, and they even have a strong tactic (10% reduced chance to defend against).

DPS shammy I hear is fun. But don't bother rolling an engi, magus is just better on all fronts (even against high disrupt rates because they deal magic damage rather than physical, and are getting significantly buffed this upcoming patch)

Wish you the best!

lumpi33
Posts: 656

Re: Rerolling to BM

Post#7 » Mon Aug 03, 2026 2:01 pm

Tulrs wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2026 1:28 pm And FORGET about even trying to hit a dealer.
Yes, never ever hit dealers. Really a bad idea! ;) :lol: :lol: :lol:

lumpi33
Posts: 656

Re: Rerolling to BM

Post#8 » Mon Aug 03, 2026 2:15 pm

nocturnalguest wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2026 11:51 am Take a look here for somewhat current AoE gameplay
Or take a look how elite solo roamers peform here (its outdated, now its gonna be harder)
I think these two videos are really misleading.

The AOE video: When you watch closely on the damage numbers you can see that it is not the BW putting out big numbers. It's his warband rolling over them while he is putting his fluff on them. The only good damage numbers come from the m2 which you have to build up first. A slayer or choppa can probably do better.

The solo video: That's an old one from a VERY gifted player. I think it is from before the time they made that disrupt changes. It's also before the WE pounce and mdps patch. He would probably die to most of these WEs today due to that pounce and disrupts.

btw: this was his WE video and that was even before the crazy WE changes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVzvjyMV2Ro

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