Goodbye Stealth

[rorswar]

I dont play Order. How much do they have?

Don’t know, but let me ask the devs that all play together in a single order guild.

Did your feelings get hurt again? You never have anything to add but declare to the world that you have died a lot to me. Don't take it personal, as I make mistakes while in combat. Or have you fed me like a buffet of sweet realm points? I

Never met you.

Just find it funny you make a statement as if only WE have bypass and a god forsake right to only have it.

That you make a statement as if only WE have relative low armour values as mDPS, but don’t know what other classes have.

That you make a thread about all devs playing in the same guilds, and insinuating that they all play order, without a shred of evidence.

I get you’re hurt that your fav class got a slight nerf. But at least argue in good faith for your class.

[Shogun4138]

Don’t know, but let me ask the devs that all play together in a single order guild.

Did your feelings get hurt again? You never have anything to add but declare to the world that you have died a lot to me. Don't take it personal, as I make mistakes while in combat. Or have you fed me like a buffet of sweet realm points? I

Never met you.

Just find it funny you make a statement as if only WE have bypass and a god forsake right to only have it.

That you make a statement as if only WE have relative low armour values as mDPS, but don’t know what other classes have.

That you make a thread about all devs playing in the same guilds, and insinuating that they all play order, without a shred of evidence.

I get you’re hurt that your fav class got a slight nerf. But at least argue in good faith for your class.

I never said WEs are the only one to have bypass.

I asked a question to what are others armor values.

It was a fare question to ask about Devs and GMs.

I notice you really dont read posts.

I cant wait for you to keep keep feeding destro sweet RR. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE

[Narfii]

Don’t know, but let me ask the devs that all play together in a single order guild.

Did your feelings get hurt again? You never have anything to add but declare to the world that you have died a lot to me. Don't take it personal, as I make mistakes while in combat. Or have you fed me like a buffet of sweet realm points? I

Never met you.

Just find it funny you make a statement as if only WE have bypass and a god forsake right to only have it.

That you make a statement as if only WE have relative low armour values as mDPS, but don’t know what other classes have.

That you make a thread about all devs playing in the same guilds, and insinuating that they all play order, without a shred of evidence.

I get you’re hurt that your fav class got a slight nerf. But at least argue in good faith for your class.

Since we're talking about bypass now, let's address how abysmally shallow sieges are and the roll stealthers should play in it. Yes mdps get bypass but what exactly is the point? Without support it's hard to actually contest anything and the keep ends up being not unlike a game of overwatch with 2 checkpoints and a win space. This change will make it very hard for the only class that could reasonably contest oil to do its job.

Therefore, stealthers should get group bypass. Limit the usage to 1 cd/wb or whatever you need to do. But this would give comps the ability to actually get real groups inside and contest walls.

My issue with all these changes is they keep ignoring the reason stealthers are suboptimal in warbands, the format we're seemingly being pushed to play.

[EastVan]

We will be fine. Just have to adapt and make some minor changes. No big deal. Still going to be killing!

" What time is it? Its......CRAZY time!! "

[abezverkhiy]

Slayers get roughly 1k more armor. Plus there are armor and toughness tactics. If they manage rage (nothing difficult in that) they play without defence penalties.

[gisborne]

however. if they are about to mutilate the class i love and i invested hundreds of hours to master - i am not gonna be silent. sorry if it goes against your idea of how thankful one should be.

There's a difference between complaining with constructive criticism and throwing a fit insulting devs.

[chris9407]

30 seconds isn't a lot of time to accomplish much when it's blob versus blob and as another pointed out - this change does not benefit 6 man or WB. So if WH/WE player's only benefit is that their class can disappear for thirty seconds before their suicide mission is over, then I don't think it's unreasonable to expect to do suicide bomber damage. Just my two cents.

[abezverkhiy]

however. if they are about to mutilate the class i love and i invested hundreds of hours to master - i am not gonna be silent. sorry if it goes against your idea of how thankful one should be.

There's a difference between complaining with constructive criticism and throwing a fit insulting devs.

We did all that mate. No response, no discussion, just ignoring.

[derKleineKerl]

I really like the stealth change just because i dislike stealth in any game. ^^

Who cares about the impact of stealth classes in a siege...you dont really need them to kill the oil.

[ravezaar]

Slayers get roughly 1k more armor. Plus there are armor and toughness tactics. If they manage rage (nothing difficult in that) they play without defence penalties.

NO they dont, if u manage Rage as u say and stay in Yellow u still loose 25% Armor, bin like that for more then a year now since they nerf