I'm falling in love with SC's

[Ashoris]

I’ve always played SC primarily.
It’s always been the best content in the game. In SC, what matters is strategy (assists, tank punts, CC), not mindless AoE like in blob fights.
Of course, there are often people who go into SC with useless AoE builds, but not on the same scale as in ORVR.

Now, playing SC is a completely new experience. Sure, even now and then there might be a slight imbalance in an SC setup, but that’s rare.

Want to play with a friend in a tank-plus-DPS setup? No problem. SC will have a healer (or not—but then the opponents won’t have one either). Want to play DPS plus healer? No problem—SC will have tanks (or no one will have them).

As far as I’m concerned, the new matchmaking is, right after the “tank rework” and the “WS/INI changes,” the best change in the game. A positive change, of course.

while it is clearly more "enjoyable" for most of the time it also favours the "farm casuals with ranged meta" they nearly never get queued against a melee/tank/healer combination they have to fear and therfore can flourish in SC

while it feels that there is a "meta shift" its less of a real meta but more of how the "balancer" creatres groups

[kpihuss]

The SCs are very nice right now.

Congratulations to the team

[CountTalabecland]

Scenario changes are overall very nice.

Still work to do on how often 500-0 stomps happen, but it is moving in the right direction.

My two proposals, 1) no premades v pugs, and 2) probably have a gear or rr lower limit on joining T4 scens. Anni/conq gear is so bad and sub rr50 so weak that to Q with it actively hurts your own realm.

Or they could just boost those two gear sets to help the new guys.

[Jajcek12]

Gear requirement in t4 sc would be very welcoming.
Since players can do dungeons into prebis and symetry in archetypes created by new pairing system there is less and less acceptence for players who que t4 scs in low tier gear just because of lazynes.
Maybe t4 scs should be some kind adjusted into renown rank. Example t4 would start from 58rr or even more.

[Panzer80]

Gear requirement in t4 sc would be very welcoming.
Since players can do dungeons into prebis and symetry in archetypes created by new pairing system there is less and less acceptence for players who que t4 scs in low tier gear just because of lazynes.
Maybe t4 scs should be some kind adjusted into renown rank. Example t4 would start from 58rr or even more.

Then how would my fresh 40 get carried and get 25k rr? XD

[Jajcek12]

Gear requirement in t4 sc would be very welcoming.
Since players can do dungeons into prebis and symetry in archetypes created by new pairing system there is less and less acceptence for players who que t4 scs in low tier gear just because of lazynes.
Maybe t4 scs should be some kind adjusted into renown rank. Example t4 would start from 58rr or even more.

Then how would my fresh 40 get carried and get 25k rr? XD

Key Word get carried xd
Not every player have so strong team on his side ,that they can win without him.

Wink

Pairing system buried archetype gap , next gaps are buffs/ debuffs , gear renown gap, premades pairings vs random soloers.

[gisborne]

Unless you're going to create a new tier, there shouldn't be any gear requirement. You can do scenarios starting at lvl 1 but suddenly you're not allowed when you hit 40? Never once have I ever cared about people's gear in scenarios. If we lose because we can't get any kills, so be it. It's the times when people play like idiots that frustrates me (standing around out of range watching the giant in TD move slowly, for example).

PS: I'm sure most ppl who know my characters think I'm the idiot in SCs. I'm ok with that.

PPS: Yes the new scenario system is amazing, primarily the change to renown. Objectives matter, trophies matter, and you still get something decent if you lose.

[Emissary]

Thank you for this post, the team appreciates all the new excitement surrounding scenarios. We hope to see even better things coming for you all.

[Jajcek12]

Unless you're going to create a new tier, there shouldn't be any gear requirement. You can do scenarios starting at lvl 1 but suddenly you're not allowed when you hit 40? Never once have I ever cared about people's gear in scenarios. If we lose because we can't get any kills, so be it. It's the times when people play like idiots that frustrates me (standing around out of range watching the giant in TD move slowly, for example).

PS: I'm sure most ppl who know my characters think I'm the idiot in SCs. I'm ok with that.

PPS: Yes the new scenario system is amazing, primarily the change to renown. Objectives matter, trophies matter, and you still get something decent if you lose.

Scenario tiers would be binded with renown rank, not with rank.

I dont know if main idea of new system was helping ignorant players kidnap all players in sc for 10 min because of his ignorance.
Desighners of system assumes that its team game and players should interact with same assumption.



Renown gain is not straight binded with matchmaking system, should not be treated as quality change but promotion change.

[Bankei]

Unless you're going to create a new tier, there shouldn't be any gear requirement. You can do scenarios starting at lvl 1 but suddenly you're not allowed when you hit 40? Never once have I ever cared about people's gear in scenarios. If we lose because we can't get any kills, so be it. It's the times when people play like idiots that frustrates me (standing around out of range watching the giant in TD move slowly, for example).

PS: I'm sure most ppl who know my characters think I'm the idiot in SCs. I'm ok with that.

PPS: Yes the new scenario system is amazing, primarily the change to renown. Objectives matter, trophies matter, and you still get something decent if you lose.

Scenario tiers would be binded with renown rank, not with rank.

I dont know if main idea of new system was helping ignorant players kidnap all players in sc for 10 min because of his ignorance.
Desighners of system assumes that its team game and players should interact with same assumption.



Renown gain is not straight binded with matchmaking system, should not be treated as quality change but promotion change.

I'm 6-4 in my last 10 SC matches. SCs are so good now and just for run, last 10 matches, I've used my warband spec in SCs. Worked really well.

gisborne is 100% correct, gatekeeping is not a solution