Stop this keep trading please

[Penril]

Wanting rewards in SC sicks me its a **** REALM VS REALM GAME

Let's delete all SC weapons from the game then. I won't have a problem with that. But as long as we have them, a separate Q will not be fair since pugs (people playing the game the way it is not meant to be played) will have an unfair advantage against groups (people who play the game the way it is meant to be played).

Would you agree to SC weapons being removed?

[Tklees]

My question for you jaycub since you seem to be the leader of the pugs need a separate que brigade. What is a premade? Is it a 6 man? A four man? A three man? Two friends duoing? What's a pug? Anyone who solos? Two casual players grouped up? The answer isn't as simple as separate ques for groups and solos

[Jaycub]

its hilarious because those players whinning there thinks theyre playing Skyrim or Dragon Age.

Edit: MOBA's are nice to solo.

>taking my troll bait from advice chat seriously

I suggested this several pages ago. I point it out again because unfortunately it appears Aza agrees with you and since he is a dev, we might be so unlucky that he actually implements separate Q's. Which would hurt players who want to group up (there are a lot of us as well).

it doesn't hurt premades, it forces them to actually fight like minded people instead of pugs. This has been explained already. Yes it will take longer to find pops, but just setting them loose on pugs is worse. When I group up I don't want to play against pugs, I want to do 6v6 and use actual tactics and strategy to win a match, not steam roll over people.

My question for you jaycub since you seem to be the leader of the pugs need a separate que brigade. What is a premade? Is it a 6 man? A four man? A three man? Two friends duoing? What's a pug? Anyone who solos? Two casual players grouped up? The answer isn't as simple as separate ques for groups and solos

A premade is a group of a 6 people. PUG's are just random solo players.

Group/Ranked que would be 6v6, and could either allow only 6 mans to que, and could have the possiblity of putting group fragments (3+3 / 4+2) against each other.

Casual que would be solo, and possibly allow twosomes.

You are right, people who don't want to solo but can't put together a 6 man can get screwed depending on how the system is setup, if that was the question you where begging for.

Dota 2 has a good system in place, I think if Az did implement MM that would be a good influence. Full groups only fight full groups in ranked, group fragments up to 4 in the case of this game would be in a que with solo players in ranked. And you would just have a casual que, except in this case make it solo only.

[Mez]

The game is better with current brackets, and group queue. Stop taking the trollbait Grulo. Schlomo's current playstyle is stack wounds, and then try to burst down a healer in SC by himself. Playing in SC's with nothing but pugs is a natural call. Stop worrying about bads Grulo.

And jaycub, if you miarcously waved a wand and got pug only pops..trust me, it'll be back to square one. Premade will all queue solo, and only join if they all get it. NOT because they want less challenge, but because they want POPS. If all 6 don't get the SC, they all drop it, and 1 realm only plays with 1 group and gets demolished. And THATS when you lose casuals. Give the poor casuals some credit guys, they aren't 12 year old WoW kiddies that found this game, they were big fans who are here for a reason.

[Jaycub]

I like how everyone attacking me is from the same guild except Tk who is the only one trying to forward the discussion past tossing ad homs at me.

stay salty critical acclaim.

I don't see a point in this anymore if you guys are just on some kind of personal vendetta against me and only one other person wants to actually discuss it normally. Don't worry you guys can keep farming pugs in SC for a long time, all of this is just bullshitting as I am sure it's not a very big priority at the moment.

[Azarael]

Premade will all queue solo, and only join if they all get it. NOT because they want less challenge, but because they want POPS. If all 6 don't get the SC, they all drop it, and 1 realm only plays with 1 group and gets demolished.

Obliged to point this out, but if this actually were to happen it would be stopped asap.

Also, my agreement with any given viewpoint does not indicate future development intentions. My viewpoint could broadly be summed up as "unbalanced SCs of any kind are a bad thing and we should be looking for solutions to deal with what exists, rather than trying to change people."

[Forbiddian]

its ppl who premade all the time the ones who dont want premade vs premade only SCs, wondering why....

[Dalgrimar]

I like how everyone attacking me is from the same guild except Tk who is the only one trying to forward the discussion past tossing ad homs at me.

stay salty critical acclaim.

I don't see a point in this anymore if you guys are just on some kind of personal vendetta against me and only one other person wants to actually discuss it normally. Don't worry you guys can keep farming pugs in SC for a long time, all of this is just bullshitting as I am sure it's not a very big priority at the moment.

Well i disagree with you aswell Jaycub, but from reading this discussion i dont really see a reason in trying to discuss with you.
Im sure more ppl also disagree with you but feel the same.
Also Grulo, Mez, Tklees, all arent in Critical Aclaim.
If you love to play solo and stay bad just go play a solo game.
This is still a MMORPG and a MMORPG is designed to play in a group.
Im also sure IF they add seperate quee's you will still cry cuz premades will just sync quees like before and even if that wouldnt be possible you would still find a reason to cry just cuz your a casual bad player and refuse to adapt.

[Merlick]

Unfortunately the lazies and the pvers that just look at stats and do not enjoy the true meaning of this game which is to pvp, prevail once again ........

[Jaycub]

Well i disagree with you aswell Jaycub, but from reading this discussion i dont really see a reason in trying to discuss with you.
Im sure more ppl also disagree with you but feel the same.
Also Grulo, Mez, Tklees, all arent in Critical Aclaim.
If you love to play solo and stay bad just go play a solo game.
This is still a MMORPG and a MMORPG is designed to play in a group.
Im also sure IF they add seperate quee's you will still cry cuz premades will just sync quees like before and even if that wouldnt be possible you would still find a reason to cry just cuz your a casual bad player and refuse to adapt.

I said except for Tk, and those guys group together most of them CA who don't like me personally becuase of megladonis and brawndo.

I'm not only a solo player, I have more fun in groups, but not when its just pug stomping. I like the feeling you get in games like CSGO where tactics and coordination, game knowledge etc... are a huge role in winning against another like minded team. Here that doesnt happen.

Premades queing solo que is very easily fixed by adding quitter debuff for not taking a pop.

Again calling me names. Why?