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Re: Stop this keep trading please

Post#161 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:04 am

Azarael wrote:Current pending changes:

- kills made in defense of a keep grant 2.5x exp and renown
- kills made in defense of a keep can drop medallions (5% chance)
- keep reward for capture severely nerfed
- attacker kills on a keep now add a multiple of the xp/renown made for that kill to a pool which is shared between all attackers on capture
- valid kills for the above require that the player is within 200ft of the keep and at least 12 players are around that area
- bo control is counted for keep door regeneration rate

What I'm considering doing as well:

- battlefield objective and keep control grants an experience, renown and droprate bonus if one realm holds more than the other
- having contributed to a BO capture (only one at a time) ticks money over time to the holders
- heroic defender on battlefield objectives if an incoming zerg is detected (some limited version of it)
All of this sounds awesome
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Re: Stop this keep trading please

Post#162 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:14 am

Don't be so rush in nerfing keep's reward, or there will be no action in ORvR whatsoever, and ppl will be playing only scenario. Because what's the poing in struggling with keep's atack, if you have a very little reward.
Just made the Zone Lock's, so everyone will be forced fight in the last keep. Don't fix what's not broken please.

That is my opinion, sorry.
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Re: Stop this keep trading please

Post#163 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:22 am

Forgot to say. There will be no keep trading in t4, because of the IC/AD siege. As we remember - we should lock 2 direction out of 3, for opening way to the last fortress and to the capital. IF you will do such major changes in t2 - what will happen with the endgame part of the WHO - capital's sieges?
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Re: Stop this keep trading please

Post#164 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:25 am

I don't really care about T4 at this point because I doubt we'll even go into T4 maps without working battlefront mechanics.

If we need to change something back later we can.

Also, people need to read the damn post. You simply cannot have 10k exp and whatever renown from capturing an empty keep. If you preserve that you're going to have to add lockout timers, and so everyone will bugger off into scenarios until they can have their freexp and freenown again. A contested keep will give even better rewards if taken.

Unless you attack the core problem, which is that it's not worth holding BOs / keeps because they're worthless in that state, you are going to have the same issues.

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Re: Stop this keep trading please

Post#165 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:41 am

20k exp, btw :>

1500r, 600 influence.

What about door, that you can hit only with the RAM?
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Re: Stop this keep trading please

Post#166 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:43 am

If we don't have siege working, then there's nothing to do here.

Worse than I thought... I remember the 10k from the code, but it's actually scaled by tier.

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Re: Stop this keep trading please

Post#167 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:49 am

Forbiddian wrote:people are evading fight and just keep trading, add timer to keeps or something please
They hunger for renown, thats why.
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Re: Stop this keep trading please

Post#168 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:50 am

People need to start read what Az mentioned instead of debunking her changes straight away.

"attacker kills on a keep now add a multiple of the xp/renown made for that kill to a pool which is shared between all attackers on capture"
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Re: Stop this keep trading please

Post#169 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:02 pm

Dalgrimar wrote:People need to start read what Az mentioned instead of debunking her changes straight away.
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Re: Stop this keep trading please

Post#170 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:32 pm

Dalgrimar wrote:People need to start read what Az mentioned instead of debunking her changes straight away.
Now that changes a lot =)


Anyway, without keep bags there's no point for me personally to go for keeps on my main, since it's 26/30. No benefits whatsoever

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