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magicthighs
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Re: Nerfed buttons

Post#21 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:33 am

Azuzu wrote:Just hit the buttons yourself :-P

Things like nerfedbuttons and macros should banable IMO.

I remember on live Sorcs would macro their entire rotation into one mouse or keyboard button. This would allow for them to always have perfect timing, so their abilities would hit at the exact same timestamp every single time.

MMOs have a lot enough skill cap to begin with, without needing to cheat. :-P
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fixer2050
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Re: Nerfed buttons

Post#22 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:58 am

There is the one you have with the invisible buttons and there is an other one from an other site that the UI works perfectly.
However i cant remember from where i had downloaded it. Just search at softpedia or the google drive file one with the WAR addons.
(I'd uploade mine but i am taking a break from the game and i dont have the game installed atm)

Sulorie
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Re: Nerfed buttons

Post#23 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:12 am

Nothing wrong with NB unless you use conditions to make decisions for you.
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Tiggo
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Re: Nerfed buttons

Post#24 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:19 am

Sulorie wrote:Nothing wrong with NB unless you use conditions to make decisions for you.

conditions dont make decisions for you, if it shows spine breaker cause you behind your target, it is still your decision to press that button or not.
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alexcia
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Re: Nerfed buttons

Post#25 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:37 am

Like Hots, dots or disrupts you can reactived without looking to the buff bar from your enemy.

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Re: Nerfed buttons

Post#26 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:40 am

Tiggo wrote:
Sulorie wrote:Nothing wrong with NB unless you use conditions to make decisions for you.

conditions dont make decisions for you, if it shows spine breaker cause you behind your target, it is still your decision to press that button or not.
The decision not to use CC, because your target is immune, can be bypassed with conditions to grey out the skill.
Dying is no option.

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Re: Nerfed buttons

Post#27 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:59 am

Sulorie wrote:
Tiggo wrote:
Sulorie wrote:Nothing wrong with NB unless you use conditions to make decisions for you.

conditions dont make decisions for you, if it shows spine breaker cause you behind your target, it is still your decision to press that button or not.
The decision not to use CC, because your target is immune, can be bypassed with conditions to grey out the skill.

this is true, though on some skills (like punt or spinebreaker for position condition) the game does that for you too. as chaotic as mythic development was, it doesnt do it for every skill though. you could argue nb fixes these inconsistencies :)
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Re: Nerfed buttons

Post#28 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:55 pm

hello

I think that Warhammer is a very good game with a lot of skills that need to make a lot of lightening quick choices. it's hard to have a good game-play.
some players need assistance to play because it's too hard for them and some players don't need it.
Playing without assistance and trying to do the best seems the normal way, but some players think that only the results are important..

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Re: Nerfed buttons

Post#29 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:21 pm

You will find that one of the things NerfedButtons does best is procing hate from other players.

With NB you are trading one skill curve for another. The GUI for it is just a pretty picture.

If you want to use it you have to type in the sequence and that isn't an easy thing to figure out. The following will get you on your way to working out how to use NB but its a bit like tossing you a book and saying read it.
  • Typing “/nb” will dump a tiny help document into your chatbox, you are going to want to read that several times.
  • Typing “/nb checks” will show you all the things it can check for and, more importantly, the parameters it is looking for in each check.
  • Typing “/nb parameters” will explain what the code expects from each parameter. Is it looking for a number? An id? A name? This will tell you.
  • You will want your skills screen open and your chat box available. Shift clicking on a skill will put its skill link into the chat box. If for any reason this is not happening, NB will not work for you. Copying a profile can break this until you restart the game, so there is a caveat.
  • You have to type out the whole string and insert the skills to use with shift clicking them in the skills inventory such that their skill ids appear in the string. That tiny help document has some examples that will show you what this looks like.
Sounds involved? Sounds like work? It is. To use NB is to learn a small programming language from the past and decipher how to piece it together in a meaningful way. The same virtues that could help you in that situation will help you here, persistence, uninterrupted experimentation, making notes, research.

I know it seems like I am being intentionally vague or annoying pedantic and I apologize for that, but short of an hour long leader led course, this is the best I can do for you. Like any language, if you want to use it you are just going to have to learn it and there is always the option of just clicking the buttons.

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Re: Nerfed buttons

Post#30 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:51 pm

I am 100% supporter of Nerfed Buttons. It keeps population in the game. The more players the better for everyone. It also makes average players into decent threats, which is always fun to get a challenge.

Just don't go self-promoting your good once you double increase your damage in SC and pretend that you are skilled. Those are the worst kind of people in this game and I will troll the crap out of you. Other than that, enjoy your mod and the game.
Word of Pain and Boiling Blood are no longer able to proc anything. The Bright Wizard College has confirmed this is a big deal. (stealth nerf)
https://bugs.returnofreckoning.com/view.php?id=23145

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