Shaman vs Archemage

[Dajciekrwi]

Damn, i cant stand the pressure .... no more!!
Nerf Mara, or even delete these f*king class definietly, but dont summon Ungrim, i beg you!!

[Morf]

Shaman better defensively Am better dps'ing, generally speaking.
Also idk why everyone is talking about detaunt tactic as if its the best tactic around, i never did and wont slot it when there are better tactics to chose from.

[geraldtarrant]

useless thread
good player>bad player
only
fully working mechanic for both sides can only truly show that tho

[Tiggo]

Shami AP drain (am has it too, but it was said to me it doesnt work correctly?) is madness!

[Gufy]

Archemage win

[grumcajs]

AM - 4 dots are enough to kill anything solo
Sham - speed of light means you can kite whole wb while get some kills vs overextending players

by burst pov - shaman win by miles (snare puddle debuff resists, BB tactic with massive toughness debuff, BB has a travel time allowing you to hit BB+BW+BoW + dots + optional Ere we go at same time)

basically AM is great for killing undergeared unhealed unguarded players
shaman can actually provide very nice burst assist dmg

[Nameless]

pounce is nowhere as annoying as pull is. Not to mention when shaman got proper positioning pouncing on him means that wl will be far at enemy backlines, solo, unguarded, soon death
AMs may got better healing numbers but they are much easier to catch and kill and at the end of the day dead healer cant heal can he.

Shaman can be pretty good for 6v6 skirmishes even better than zealot while AM hardly can compete with RP at that scale.
For wb fights you need no more than one per wb, where they do ress bot dues and some slowing
Both classes shines mostly at 1v1, 2v2 fights, which is rather sad state to be at massive pvp game

[ostrogoth182]

I've played both, I think they're pretty even, ice seen a good AM out heal everyone sane for a good Shammy it's how you play

[bloodi]

A guildmate had high rr shaman AND archmage on live and has a rr40 shaman and a rr33 archmage here on ror.

He told me archmage is simply better by ~20%. Heals more, damages more, is slightly more tough and don't have to suffer op stuff like pounce and festering arrow.

.

And that is why no 6man in order ran with an Am but Shaman was viable.

Because am is 20% better.

More balance reviews by the "Destruction is terrible, seriously guys" comitee coming soon.

[Aceboltz]

I was just reporting the feelings of someone who spent some time on both careers. A lot of order ran with an AM in the group simply because of players who wanted to play their beloved AM.