How is the state of WL?

[Azarael]

My whole point was that if WL are going to continue to be able to jump onto keep walls implementing Pick Lock will give us at least one class that can do somewhat the same thing.. It will also let WH do it . But at least Destro will have ONE class that can match ( somewhat ) the WL ability to get into a keep and make kills..

Pick Lock and Bypass Defenses are in.

[Coryphaus]

just give them the incoming healdebuff and be done with it :^)

you would also need to be decent and remove the positional requirements on some abilities

[Bretin]

wait what? is wl now op or up?

[Coryphaus]

wait what? is wl now op or up?

its both

pounce is a hilariously ridiculous ability but in the grand scheme of things is not as strong as other mdps late game

[Coryphaus]

Pick Lock and Bypass Defenses are in.

if you want mdps to be able to effectively use bypass defenses az you need to remove all those npc chaps on the first floor of a keep, you cant expect mdps to go in then be unable to engage targets if they are near the chap mobs or apply pressure using aoe for the fear of pulling mobs and getting basically insta killed


honestly those floor npcs serve no purpose (or npcs in general in the keeps anymore since people try to defend keeps now)

[Bretin]

wait what? is wl now op or up?

its both

pounce is a hilariously ridiculous ability but in the grand scheme of things is not as strong as other mdps late game

is it hilariously or ridiculous?

[Coryphaus]

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is it hilariously or ridiculous?

its both

[Bretin]

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is it hilariously or ridiculous?

its both

can you explain why?

[Coryphaus]

First and foremost the ability works x10 times better than it did on live, you used to have to spam the ability 5 times before it finally worked and this gave wls a lot of ap problems even in late game when you had +ap gear, ap potions and potions that inc ap regen rate and furthermore the ablity on live had issues with terrain, thats also as far as i can tell not present here as wls can jump on top of keeps and stuff

Now what i just stated isnt the issue but rather some facts to consider.

The real issue is this; it is a 65ft gap closer, escape mechanism and positioning tool all for 30 ap with no cd

it offers an insanely huge amount of mobility that no other class in the game has on top of having charge and fetch

*were not going to start to TE vs fetch argument cause this is not live but rather RoR and if pounce can consistently work here then down the line lets also assume that fetch shall work fine as well*

furthermore pounce complealty hard counters knock-backs from tanks and other classes as they can just pounce right back even in mid air

lastly in keep seige pounce allows you to jump right onto keep walls and tear right through any clothie healer or rdps with its massive burst and then just jump back down and get healed and then rinse and repeat and destro is in no way able to mimic this cheese tactic which as unfortunate as it would help do something about all the shitty bw's

[Russiancrushian]

If you can put pounce on your keyboard on numbers 1-= and slam your forehead against your keyboard during a fight, you will do fine.