WL [pounce] 5sec kd or 0 damage

[zarg64]

Is this a "perfectly mirror everything" argument?

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather Festerbombing didn't exist, because it's a painfully annoying gimmick which many Destruction players wave around in any balance thread we get on these forums, but it's still just a gimmick.

I is not capacity in English language to argument...but "enter" bombing group and the OS of the SW the pounce of the wl that begins has to make a lot...And I speak not about the non-stop zerg to order..

[Azarael]

How about fix the pet AI first? Before even try and nerf the class. If pet would work like on live (endstadium) than wls would take the kd and frenzy path rather than pounce tree. And wl would Still have a bad KD compared to others.

The War Lion is fine. Put it on passive and command it manually. Dunno why people even play the pet AI card anymore.

[Korhill]

Sorry thats not really true. When i am at home i will try and find a video how the pet was on live and i will send it to you.
It is much better than before - true, but not like it was on live.

Edit: i mean more the pathing. On live the WL was everytime next to you. While riding a horse, by feet or with charge. So you could always start immediately your rotation with kd and frenzy.

Now it is much harder. When you engage an enemy you have to wait some seconds till the pet arrives and is with you and than you can start effectiv your rotation. And this is a big disadvantage in my eyes.
Would love to hear what other WLs think.

[Soulcheg]

Just be honest, "nerf-it-now" whiners. You just want to nerf everything in opposites classes to easy-farm for rr and xp, that's all. Nothing more. You don't care about balance, only thought in your head - "he can kill me, i want to nerf it, so only I can kill him, i don't want to die, so just remove everything from other classes, so they can't harm me in any way, and i'll be cool, swag, and invincible, and laugh at them on forums ".

That is the ONLY cause. So stop that hypocrisy. "Nerf SW, nerf BW, nerf Slayer, ner KotBS, nerf WP, nerf WL, nerf IB, but leave sorcs maras squigs etcetera alone, because they are weak and need improvements!!!!!!!111"

And btw, Aza, nice job with encouragement of all that whine.

[Penril]

furthermore penril i want to point out that you are blowing 2 of a tanks cc tools, both with 20s cool down just to try and control 1 target

that just dosnt seem right to me, pounce shouldnt completely negate the effectiveness of knockbacks

But you are not supposed to spam your KD/punt/morales. You must save them for emergencies. I dont go punting everytime it is off CD; i save it for those situations where 2+ enemies are on an ally and he is clearly in danger. Then i punt one of them (never a WL), KD another one, and maybe Champ challenge the last one.

I use Kd + punt on WLs just to troll them... i bet they are spamming their Pounce hotkey while they are flying towards the lava

[zarg64]

Just be honest, "nerf-it-now" whiners. You just want to nerf everything in opposites classes to easy-farm for rr and xp, that's all. Nothing more. You don't care about balance, only thought in your head - "he can kill me, i want to nerf it, so only I can kill him, i don't want to die, so just remove everything from other classes, so they can't harm me in any way, and i'll be cool, swag, and invincible, and laugh at them on forums ".

That is the ONLY cause. So stop that hypocrisy. "Nerf SW, nerf BW, nerf Slayer, ner KotBS, nerf WP, nerf WL, nerf IB, but leave sorcs maras squigs etcetera alone, because they are weak and need improvements!!!!!!!111"

And btw, Aza, nice job with encouragement of all that whine.

And you it is just to affect not my class op I like too much my aoe, my zerg and my easy rr pve mode lol

its correct?

[Soulcheg]

Here we go again. I played as a BG, SH, Shammy, etcetera, have 90+ rr characters, 5 years. Now i'm playing BW, kotbs, WP,slayer, all of them 26, i have every character, except 2, cause i don't have more slots.

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[Uchoo]

Lmfao.

dont you have some dbs to steal with you obnoxious crit chance?

seriouly though looking at my combat log

>pounce crit
>force oppertunity crit
>cordinated strike crit
>aa
>aa crit


i have to keep telling my self "wl is up" "wl is up"

and choppas arnt excalty ment to stack initiative

I don't see where White Lions have ridiculous crit chance. Sure, you get 5% from Trained To Threaten, but if you are using Trained To Threaten, you are losing a significant amount of damage, especially burst. If you have a high chance to be crit, you will probably be crit.

Regarding the OP, Pounce doing 0 damage will have little impact on the game. It would force White Lions to learn to use other abilities to hurt things, but a WL spamming Pounce isn't doing very much damage compared to one playing properly.

A 5s or 8s cooldown would be completely justified if they changed the ability as proposed in the SM/Borc changes, making it a strategic asset rather than just putting you behind a moving target and doing constant amounts of meager damage.

[Tesq]

I don't see where White Lions have ridiculous crit chance. Sure, you get 5% from Trained To Threaten, but if you are using Trained To Threaten, you are losing a significant amount of damage, especially burst. If you have a high chance to be crit, you will probably be crit.

source of damage problems of order partys is kobs +10% damage crit tactic/+10% heal crit tactic
-add loyal pet add-on burst
-make run pet toward your target
-pounce

ista tons of burst damage

-pounce back safe location.

it need a 5-10 sec cd now that it work properly.

[Coryphaus]

source of damage problems of order partys is kobs +10% damage crit tactic/+10% heal crit tactic

IB ancestors fury also