WL [pounce] 5sec kd or 0 damage

[mursie]

I really don't think the war lion is fine.

A few issues:

1. hover over the pet abilities - you will notice they read as level 1 abilities (sometimes they flicker to actually read as your level but only for a split second)

2. putting pet on passive and manually directing doesn't work with even 75% effectiveness. I can't tell you how many times i have commanded the pet to heel...only to see it turn immediately around and go back to target. (this is with passive stance on pet). LIterally spamming heel is the only way to make it force its way back...spamming the heel button because every 0.5secs it looks to turn back around and head back.

unfortunately the wl pet is melee like the wl. don't even get me started on all the issues melee faces in this game with ability lag and actual location of enemy player relative to you issues on server.

[Vdova]

Just be honest, "nerf-it-now" whiners. You just want to nerf everything in opposites classes to easy-farm for rr and xp, that's all. Nothing more. You don't care about balance, only thought in your head - "he can kill me, i want to nerf it, so only I can kill him, i don't want to die, so just remove everything from other classes, so they can't harm me in any way, and i'll be cool, swag, and invincible, and laugh at them on forums ".

That is the ONLY cause. So stop that hypocrisy. "Nerf SW, nerf BW, nerf Slayer, ner KotBS, nerf WP, nerf WL, nerf IB, but leave sorcs maras squigs etcetera alone, because they are weak and need improvements!!!!!!!111"

And btw, Aza, nice job with encouragement of all that whine.

You are so negative person....
I understand Your WL is your belowed class. It was my too on live(not as belowed as my WE, but whatever).
I was trying to point on single game mechanics, that cannot be countered by destro. Sure WL is out of guard range, out of healers sight, but mostly hotted. THanks to his insane burst he can kill squishy rdps(who always stand on walls) in a second, jump down, get healed to full, than repeat over, over and over again. 1WL is not a big thread, but I have seen !7! Wls clearing keep walls in 10 seconds.
Show me single class on destro side which can do the same. I was not calling for a NERF. I was calling to make it work as it worked on live, thats all.

If Aza said it is fine, so it is fine.

However I also vote for buffing WL in T4 for incoming insted of outgoing heal debuff.

[bloodi]

Here are 4 examples of me moving the goalposts.

FTFY

Your argument was comparing it to another movement skills as "the elephant in the room".

I guess that elephant is now gone ?

Everyone knows the advantages of pounce, you are the one who started comparing it to another movement skills.

Sure WL is out of guard range, out of healers sight, but mostly hotted. THanks to his insane burst he can kill squishy rdps(who always stand on walls) in a second, jump down, get healed to full, than repeat over, over and over again. 1WL is not a big thread, but I have seen !7! Wls clearing keep walls in 10 seconds.

You forgot to mention that time where 10 WL betrayed the emperor, sold their souls to the chaos and tried to invade terra.

Or that time when they killed the king of the Noldor, destroyed the trees of light and fled with the Silmarils starting the war of the jewels.

I mean, if we are talking about things that never happened, may as well talk them in full.

[mursie]

You must play EU time.

Come play NA hours - where organized destro stomp pug order all night. Routinely tripling order healers in sc's and having leaderboards that finish with 8 of the top 10 dps in the sc being destro.

Give that a few weeks and you'll be begging to nerf your own class just so you can log in and experience some competition.

NA weeknights is order atrocious. The average destro sc will have 5 tanks / 3 maras / 2 token RPDS / 2 healers. Absolute rollfest.

[mursie]

... pounce will only allow you to go towards an enemy, all of you, it puts you in danger.

Here are 4 examples of better use of the skill

• You can pounce AWAY from melee focus fire whenever you are pressured or when you guard has been punted
  You can assist better then any other mdps (no travel times, snare immune). Especially on a target your tank has already KD
  You can hit fleeing targets easier then any other mdps (other cant)
  You can escape being punted off bridges or cliff sides

Have you played a WL?

[Joshwa70]

Guve mar pounce. I'm tired of losers whining. They will never stop. In fact... the only fair thing is to make wl and mar exact mirrors. Please... make that happen. I can't wait to see their butthurt posts th. Or.... we can just live and let live and our crappy class can continue its pounce into mediocrity. If you put a cd on pounce... there needs to be a massive destro nerf to match.

[Asvaldr]

Pounce just needs to be transferred to melee sws its only fair

[Bozzax]

Your argument was comparing it to another movement skills as "the elephant in the room".

I guess that elephant is now gone ?

Everyone knows the advantages of pounce, you are the one who started comparing it to another movement skills.

... check the source really ...

I was simply enlightening you on 4 uses where pounce don't put you in any danger all.

The "elephant is the room" is a 0 CD compared to other "movement affecting abilities" that all have a 10-30s cd.

[Ravai]

edit: I was wrong

[Aceboltz]

Why are you crying guys? Pounce is already mirrored on sword master! (M2-wings of heaven). Better nerf magus.