couple things I've noticed since I started 2 weeks ago

[Sickesthater]

This game definetly needs more then 2 weeks to do such statements.

@Oldnight pay insults like this no mind. This server is full of those who want to bite your head off for pointing things out. In case you all didnt notice... he said he has leveled a character to 40. I think that makes him quite experienced. I mean hes not just some level 7 in tier one here... you ppl need to learn to READ.

[akisnaakkeli]

Ill preface this by saying I do enjoy the game.

however,

1. leveling to 40 is very arduous.
if it wasn't for the 2x exp I would never hit 40 for 6 to 8 mos.

no one is leveling, and the majority of my exp came from rvr during 2x exp.

I just hit 40 yesterday, and have tried to level a different class in between.

that class without 2x exp has only managed to get to 16.

2. the destruction faction is overwhelming here.
I'm not sure what was modified with order, but order classes seem to be outnumbered and lose roughly 70% of scenario fights.

choppas and mauraders seem to not accurately mirror us, and hence they are doing too much damage compared to order.

3.swordmaster can no longer debuff for his spirit damage, it looks like that changed to resistance buff instead of debuffi g the enemy.

4. whunters are limited to physical damage whereas witch elves can bypass armor because they have access to 100% corporeal damage.

I've been is many, many fights with witch elves who barely take any damage because they Regen it back so quickly.

they are akin to a black orc tank that does a lot more damage.

5. squid herders seem to be op as well vs sw.

6. black orcs need multiple people to take them down, and it seems like they have access to very high self sustain, to the point that they don't need a healer.

anyhow, I'm prob going to stick with the sm, even though the class doesn't play the same as it did in retail as I don't have it in me to make a half a level a day to level a different toon.

2. Choppa/Slayer Mara/Wl all do great dmg. Mara had 50% Armour penetration on all skills even AA live because Piercing Bite bug+Deadly Clutch, you even got healed by their potions, probably even regen: D Also WL was much better on live as well, Pets got grp heals/buffs and this build wasnt restricted like it in RoR RoR.builders - White Lion 100% Dmg increase for 10 sec and then summon pet back with crit tactic. You could use pounce mid-air from KB and you could drop down from any hight like 200ft+ DW bridge and Use pounce before you hit the ground you didnt take any dmg=) And your pet were there before you even from that 200ft bridge. Pounce could crit and did dmg 1 sec after landing and you Insta Crit 1k with AA then Coordinated strike and pounce dmg happens at the same time then another 1k AA crit and you were dead. Pounce could be used much more tactical like tank guarding him while he and pet recked people at the edge of keep so you were just in range of guard while yourtank is outside and door is still up.

3. Swordmasters had so much better Blade enchantments live, Like Heavens Blade reducing targets all resistances by 220 and it stacked with Spirit resis debuff from woh to over 500. Dps WP's and Am's loved to play with them, didnt even care about Whispering wind, i wanted that 0 spirit resis on enemy so my divine assault murders + heals high. And Phantoms Blade (R.I.P best one) 25% on hit to absorb 400 dmg.

4. Witch hunters are the Number 1 solo class and can spam finisher's with very high Spirit bullet dmg using flowing accusations. If using Vindication and flanking all that dmg rises 50% as well. WHs' are monsters but so are Welfs as well. Just not as good and not as fun imo because its so much more passive than WH.

5. SH's were much better off when they had the 98ft ranged tactic and 15sec dot. They have alot of dmg now but is it worth the reduced range? There was a time when Range and Melee SW/SH were great, but the eventual overnerf ofc came.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0k0nx1DKR4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PowV-WxnR68

6. Black Orcs need Snb Thc and give Chop Fasta to blorc with 1min CD and give choppa 6sec Bleed em out like aoe dot, last tick always crit and high.

SM is great 2h tank fun, Blorc used to be my fave with snb thc but now i would definetely play SM instead of Blorc.

[Nefarian78]

@Oldnight pay insults like this no mind. This server is full of those who want to bite your head off for pointing things out. In case you all didnt notice... he said he has leveled a character to 40. I think that makes him quite experienced. I mean hes not just some level 7 in tier one here... you ppl need to learn to READ.

Does beating normal Baal in d2 make you experienced? Does getting to maps in PoE make you experienced? Does getting to 60 in WoW make you experienced? No, it does not and this is especially the case in games such as these which is in fact reflected by the objectively false statements made.

Just to give an example, he played an SM to 40 and yet, in all that time, he still hasn't realized Wrath of Hoeth debuffs spirit resist. I guess we define "quite experienced" in very different ways.

[Yaliskah]

Ahem .

Perfect timing to talk about EXPERIENCE. Here is one.

Well i started AFTER the x2 Event a character to check -as a casual gamer- how many time it could take to lvl a character 40/40, WITHOUT DOING ANY PVE OR ANY QUEST (even RvR quest, WITHOUT ANY FRIEND, GUILD TO PL ME OR ACCLAIM POTS, just joining PU warbands and scenarios) and if there was a problem at some point doing this.



28 hours and almost 31/41(and tons of tokens in my bag). No need to say that a good part of this time was doing nothing but talking to NPC to sell/buy, respec, and waiting scenarios.

And actual (and unique) issue i encounter doing such kind of (stupid) chalenge is only this one : I wont have enough gold to buy my future mount and good talismans.

This said, i assume any normal person would take ATLEAST Rvr quests to improve his XP gains and rewards (and then improve spent time to lvl up).

Voila.

[joroth]

I've been is many, many fights with witch elves who barely take any damage because they Regen it back so quickly.

This is hopefully getting fixed soon we are in a defensive meta atm.


biggest thing you have to remember. Most people start their first chars on order then maybe play destro later. So when you're leveling a lot of the time people on destro seem to have more of an idea how to exploit the strengths of their class over fresh off-the-boat players. This game is amazing and you're in for an amazing journey. keep in mind that how slow/fast you level since this is a pvp game will directly impact on how well you perform as a player.

Wish i could experience this game for the first time again so im kind of jelly enjoy your time with us!1

[shoelessHN]

1-16 pve only prob takes 4 hours. Obviously longer or shorter depending on class.

And that's like a doomsday scenario where you start at 8AM server time and no scenarios are popping.

[Oldnight]

I've been is many, many fights with witch elves who barely take any damage because they Regen it back so quickly.

This is hopefully getting fixed soon we are in a defensive meta atm.


biggest thing you have to remember. Most people start their first chars on order then maybe play destro later. So when you're leveling a lot of the time people on destro seem to have more of an idea how to exploit the strengths of their class over fresh off-the-boat players. This game is amazing and you're in for an amazing journey. keep in mind that how slow/fast you level since this is a pvp game will directly impact on how well you perform as a player.

Wish i could experience this game for the first time again so im kind of jelly enjoy your time with us!1

ya--- the similarity this game has to WoW, is that Destro leads in population, and in scenario and world pvp they are a lot more POI focused; rather than get kills focused.

I cant play destro/horde-- why people want to play monsters is beyond me

I gotta play something that looks like me-- tall and a lady killer

[joroth]

im the opposite if im going to play a fantasy game the last thing i wanna play is a human.

[Oldnight]

@Oldnight pay insults like this no mind. This server is full of those who want to bite your head off for pointing things out. In case you all didnt notice... he said he has leveled a character to 40. I think that makes him quite experienced. I mean hes not just some level 7 in tier one here... you ppl need to learn to READ.

Does beating normal Baal in d2 make you experienced? Does getting to maps in PoE make you experienced? Does getting to 60 in WoW make you experienced? No, it does not and this is especially the case in games such as these which is in fact reflected by the objectively false statements made.

Just to give an example, he played an SM to 40 and yet, in all that time, he still hasn't realized Wrath of Hoeth debuffs spirit resist. I guess we define "quite experienced" in very different ways.

we used to have another spi debuff. when you stack to 2 you could feel it.

now only 1 spi debuff is so minute.
I mean many of the jewelry items have 100+ spi resist baked in.

[Oldnight]

Ahem .

Perfect timing to talk about EXPERIENCE. Here is one.

Well i started AFTER the x2 Event a character to check -as a casual gamer- how many time it could take to lvl a character 40/40, WITHOUT DOING ANY PVE OR ANY QUEST (even RvR quest, WITHOUT ANY FRIEND, GUILD TO PL ME OR ACCLAIM POTS, just joining PU warbands and scenarios) and if there was a problem at some point doing this.



28 hours and almost 31/41(and tons of tokens in my bag). No need to say that a good part of this time was doing nothing but talking to NPC to sell/buy, respec, and waiting scenarios.

And actual (and unique) issue i encounter doing such kind of (stupid) chalenge is only this one : I wont have enough gold to buy my future mount and good talismans.

This said, i assume any normal person would take ATLEAST Rvr quests to improve his XP gains and rewards (and then improve spent time to lvl up).

Voila.

listen I'm still 16 on my sw.

there are few, if any scenario pops for order.
and when they do pop order gets demolished usually 500 to 20 or 0.

this server is overly destroyed biased

ya I bet if I leveled a destro toon I could get to 40 pretty quick.

but I will never play destro, horde, whatever the evil faction in a game is.