Last suggestion. (No harm =_=)

[jojomen]

Azarael, i feel sorry if i took your time in some way (or wasted) - i am just wonna play not "MIRRORED" game, but fair . I swear it will be my last "suggestion" post even if i am so bad at them please take a look at that last one.




PART 1
I will ask you again about +15% healing tactic for CHOSENS -
(As player who got Chosen and KBOTS in same time can i ask for you to do the same thing with chosen tactic +15% incoming heal.
To swap "Embrace The Winds" and "Tainted Wound" theirs places. to make it look like in 7points slot - KOBTS already had it and can use it at 23 lvl.)
I will Explain all of it in details :
CHOSEN cant Maxed self healing without it , because he not so lucky as KOBTS - to have HEALING skill and +% incoming heal tactic in same tree.
build where we trying to get and healing tactic + Healing skill maxed lvl (without wasting any points and skills that we need) isn't possible.

PART 2
We all know that , only ORDER side had party-Critical boosts BUFFs :
a) KOBTS -"Dirty Tricks" after knight Blocks any attack he buffs his party for 10% critical chance. But this effect not affect KoBTS himself.
b) SW -"Leading Shots" after SWs dealt ranged critical hit , critical chance for his party will be increased by 15%.But this effect not affect SW himself. himself

I am suggesting to put both of these tactics on inner CD - in 30 seconds, because even 9% of melee critical chance equal to 30 RR points;
And to buff own party with almost free 150 RR points all the time , too good to be truth.



PART 3
Last but not a least important, I talking about BUFF-Staking, yep only for STATS\RESISTS\ARMOR nor (parry\block\disrupt - it would be too OP)
It feels pretty bad when you playing buff armor class (or DOK with STR buff) , and already has buff from potion -all your inner self Wanting to reroll to class that DIDNT had any buffs - to not waste AP, GCD and skill points on it (But all we love to play IB\ENGI\SMs and others classes that had self buffs)

So I am just asking can we allow to staking buffs but NOT with theirs full power? EXAMPLE
Engineer that has Potion on armor (300points),self buff on armor (200 points), and party aura-buff from WP on armor (400 points).
If i got it right now ONLY one of these buffs can work at time so when we see 3 buffs on us - in reality it is like?
a) 300+200+400 = 300 armor points. yep?
but can we allow them rescale secondary buffs at least in (1\4) , so to make it looks like that
b) 300+(200\4)+(400\4) = 450 armor points ,its not to high but anyway we feel joy to know that All of that lines of buffs not useless,and not wasted icons.
And if game code not allowing it , so can we make Anti-bolster for secondary buffs ? so that if DOK had potion on STR
he can buff his STR with his own Skill , but it would be deLVLed version of buff -10 lvl below actual lvl of skill.
c) 40str (potion) + 20str(skill) = to make at least it 45str.



My post was not to mean any harm or offend anyone in neither way . Have nice day guys

[Soulcheg]

Dear god. One madman after another.

[Druin]

Dear god. One madman after another.

[boog]

Speaking on behalf of tanking. Having played every tank, order and destroy, to minimum rr80 the tanks utilizing those tactics for the most part are turtle tanks. If a tank is going dps, like most do (and I am not just insinuating 2h dps), it would be stupid of them to waste a tactic slot on something like increased received healing so self regen abilities proc higher. The damage taken to health recovered ratio would not justify the means to make it a viable build.

Meanwhile, turtle tanks could utilize those tactics and in turn make themselves nearly unkillable (the whole point of turtle tank). However, they clearly sacrifice damage. I really enjoyed playing turtle tank and I can say this as turtle unless the person decided not to flee from the fight there was little to any chance of me actually killing them.

You ask for fair, which is synonymous with balance in the terms you are using the word. Balanced means weighed the same which in the confines of this game would be a pretty close relation with mirror.

The classes are balanced but not equal. Kind of like the saying separate, but equal.

[Styrkarr]

Chosen and Kotbs are NOT really mirrored carreer. Kotbs is more defensive and Chosen have more DPS.

When the Kotbs choose the 3rd tree, it's only for the tactic's +15% heal and the Heaven's Fury. It increases the "Stay focused!" aura ? Ok, good, but not so much usefull.

But did you see that when Chosen spend points in the 3rd tree :
- they have Quake as the Kotbs
- BUT they also increase their resistance aura and the debuff it did on order people (yeah i know, the kotbs too, but the kotbs is not a tank who deal spirit damage as the Chosen !) so they increase their DPS.
- they increase the Ravage skill too, their MAIN DPS skill ! And the Seeping Wound.
- they also increase the AoE which debuff Wounds (Blast Wave) !
- ...


I'm playing Kotbs and Chosen. I think those two careers don't need ANY changes.

[Tiggo]

comparing theoretical values is... well ... theoretical...

looking at the real battlefield REALLY cant say that chosen is worse then kotbs and vice versa, i think they are both quite well balanced.

[Tesq]

l2p issue for sure ....

naa kobs tactic should be nerf, and if something need to be mirror i suggest BO/BG that is where unique tool should be cross mirror.(also healing tactic is ok, it's the crit tactic that it's a bane...)

Chosen is fine not too few supp/not too much.

[Tiggo]

l2p issue for sure ....

naa kobs tactic should be nerf, and if something need to be mirror i suggest BO/BG that is where unique tool should be cross mirror.

Chosen is fine not too few supp/not too much.

dont touch my kotbs or riot!

[Sulorie]

You assume that talented chosen/kotbs use healing aura in pvp.

[Tesq]

l2p issue for sure ....

naa kobs tactic should be nerf, and if something need to be mirror i suggest BO/BG that is where unique tool should be cross mirror.

Chosen is fine not too few supp/not too much.

dont touch my kotbs or riot!

riot? (what?)