Contribution wiping when swapping chars

[Lithenir]

is it really that big of an issue? I mean, box running isnt as effective as it was and in empty zones you dont really get enough contri to win a bag this way. To get a bag youd need to actually get to a high roll bonus on a char, which does require some effort. And thats on top of people usually not having more than 3 toons they re gearing. Though i guess its ultimately about how easy it would be to abuse the system.

That's where you're wrong. It is pretty easy to get high roll bonus. Simply because you get the roll bonus from not getting the bag during the bag roll. I have chars with a golden bag roll bonus of 630 and a purple bag roll bonus of 635. I play small scale (mostly even less than 6) and SC. So my contribution isn't always high but high enough to roll and get the bonus.
So all you would need to do is carrying enough supplies to have enough contribution to participate in the roll and switch to another char just to do the same. After 2 or 3 days every char you did that with has at least one golden bag.

[Caduceus]

The issue was with the bag roll bonus. Was too easy for ppl to stack up bag roll bonuses on all alts by just popping into a zone but not realy doing much

Was such behavior really that problematic and widespread?

I sympathize with the OP here, and I've had many instances myself where I felt like I couldn't swap chars because I had hours of contribution saved up on a character that would all get lost.

If people want to cheese the system, take all the fun out for themselves by not really playing the game, who are they hurting but themselves?

I feel like the collateral damage is sometimes not taken into account.

[Meliannia]

i think the current system is a pretty fair system tbh
admittedly with the rng roll for the zone lock rewards now between 001 to 199 there's less chance of alts coming in late and stealing bags. so i see what you guys are saying of those who have been there hours

before (over a year ago now?) when the rng roll for the zone lock was 001 to 999 the system could have been milked dry if theyd let ppl log in alts and every1 gets a roll
in those dark days of nonsense rng you could be lev 40 do 3hrs in a zone do 50 boxes, kill 200 destro, hit the lord, take 17 bases, hold 6 bases and the game would roll you a 008 and ud get nothing

and some lev 22 wp would appear at the end hit the boss once and roll 998 and get a bag for 47 secs work

those days are long gone never to return i hope

with the lower 001 to 199 rng roll range, contribution is counted more so i think this aspect of the game is fine as paint atm, tho i do see the other people points of view.

[Cyrylius]

is it really that big of an issue? I mean, box running isnt as effective as it was and in empty zones you dont really get enough contri to win a bag this way. To get a bag youd need to actually get to a high roll bonus on a char, which does require some effort. And thats on top of people usually not having more than 3 toons they re gearing. Though i guess its ultimately about how easy it would be to abuse the system.

That's where you're wrong. It is pretty easy to get high roll bonus. Simply because you get the roll bonus from not getting the bag during the bag roll. I have chars with a golden bag roll bonus of 630 and a purple bag roll bonus of 635. I play small scale (mostly even less than 6) and SC. So my contribution isn't always high but high enough to roll and get the bonus.
So all you would need to do is carrying enough supplies to have enough contribution to participate in the roll and switch to another char just to do the same. After 2 or 3 days every char you did that with has at least one golden bag.

Ok, i get it. But if you're in the zone you are actually getting contribution as the game intended you to, and the total amount is similar no matter how you split it. The most you can do is avoid getting bonus so high that it overshoots the gold bag threshold, but i can't see that as a problem to be honest. I understand you can get bonus very fast by running boxes and general efficient rvr activity, but it already happens, and this mechanic isn't helping that much. And then, of you think about it, if someone spent three hours getting massive amount of kills in a zone, then what's wrong with swapping to another char so that the contri you get won't go to waste?

[Budzisz]

is it really that big of an issue? I mean, box running isnt as effective as it was and in empty zones you dont really get enough contri to win a bag this way. To get a bag youd need to actually get to a high roll bonus on a char, which does require some effort. And thats on top of people usually not having more than 3 toons they re gearing. Though i guess its ultimately about how easy it would be to abuse the system.

That's where you're wrong. It is pretty easy to get high roll bonus. Simply because you get the roll bonus from not getting the bag during the bag roll. I have chars with a golden bag roll bonus of 630 and a purple bag roll bonus of 635. I play small scale (mostly even less than 6) and SC. So my contribution isn't always high but high enough to roll and get the bonus.
So all you would need to do is carrying enough supplies to have enough contribution to participate in the roll and switch to another char just to do the same. After 2 or 3 days every char you did that with has at least one golden bag.

It is not an easy thing to get high accumulated roll bonuses. It is far more effective, if your goal is to get a gold bag, to farm as much contri in one zone because it translates 100% to your chance at getting a bag. Unlike accumulated bonus, which only translates to less than 20-30% of your total contri in the zone. Meaning that e.g. If I get 500 contri and dont get a bag, it will only give you some 100-150 accumulated bonus. This means that it is far more effective to just run some extra boxes on 1 toon, instead of bringing multiple toons with low contri. The only reason you might want to do that, is when another class is needed, or when your current toon already maxed the contri and is guaranteed a gold. In both cases I think It's completely fine.