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Sulorie
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Re: warcrest

Post#11 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:22 am

tvbrowntown wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:48 am
Sulorie wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:47 am Not going to happen for obvious reasons.
Personally, I can't see a solid reason why it's a bad idea past the initial knee-jerk reaction of "the strong get stronger" - which I don't think holds up past some scrutiny of how it'll work. I suspect it just tugs at the emotions of people who've been here a while because if they crawled through hell, so must everyone else.

Let's say a decked-out RR 85 did siphon their crests to a lowbie toon. First of all, they would have to actually play the lowbie to get them into the gear - taking out a toon who is RR80+ from the lakes and bringing in a fresh-faced, wide-eyed RR60 or some such. While they might have greater gear than the average RR60 they are still not an RR80 in sov when playing their alt. In an odd turn of events, it becomes fairer for the noob because the RR85 is now playing their RR60 instead.

Meanwhile, a noob player is playing their one toon anyways, focused purely on them - like they would've been either way. Being unable to play the way you want is a barrier. Making the game more alt friendly can only be more beneficial to the game, can't it? Not like you can play all your own toons at the same time.

What is the negative way this plays out as an example, please?
Renown is easy to get, gear takes more time. Farm rr with your new char, then do more challenging and rewarding content with your bis gear chars and just send the rewards to your new char.
It's already an advantage to have better access to consumables or talismans on a Twink, when you can send as much gold as you need, while the new player has to earn from scratch. For what reason they need another advantage in aquiring gear?
The core rule is, do content with the char you need that gear.
With the same logic of your suggestion, all PvE dungeon gear should be BoE, therefore you farm it with geared out chars and just send the loot to twinks.
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Avelinna
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Re: warcrest

Post#12 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:10 am

The unified currency is ridiculous new players having to buy pointless armour sets to move up. Only getting 6 for a win no matter what level you going around decimator gear when you are 20 is a complete joke. This need completely removed or adjusted to help people at the bottom. The game will become more one sided and lots of low rank players will leave the game for good. You need new players stop making it more difficult for them to level or gear every mmo makes this mistake and end up losing there playerbase. New World is dying as a result concentration on top level player and giving the lower ones nothing at all. The ah will soon have no boots or gloves which makes things even worse. In the 4 year + ive played every change has been a backward step this is the worst yet and could break the game permantly and will shutdown in the near future. Stop the rot ditch the warcrests in its present form it an abysmal change penalising low ranked players very heavily.

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tvbrowntown
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Re: warcrest

Post#13 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:40 am

Sulorie wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:22 am With the same logic of your suggestion, all PvE dungeon gear should be BoE, therefore you farm it with geared out chars and just send the loot to twinks.
No, if I believed that then my logic would be to make it BoA at least - but considering the lockout for dungeons is now 18h it's not exactly demanding or time-consuming to do. But why would many people do PVE to play PVP? If you're gonna suggest we play our characters to progress then shouldn't we at least play them in the setting appropriate to what we want to be doing?

tbh, I feel what you've said is either a misunderstanding of what I want to accomplish or a disingenuous representation of my ideology to push your perspective/discredit mine.

I'm cool with people not liking my perspective - but I think I have decent reasons to have them.

Wap
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Re: warcrest

Post#14 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:01 pm

Avelinna wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:10 am The unified currency is ridiculous new players having to buy pointless armour sets to move up. Only getting 6 for a win no matter what level you going around decimator gear when you are 20 is a complete joke. This need completely removed or adjusted to help people at the bottom. The game will become more one sided and lots of low rank players will leave the game for good. You need new players stop making it more difficult for them to level or gear every mmo makes this mistake and end up losing there playerbase. New World is dying as a result concentration on top level player and giving the lower ones nothing at all. The ah will soon have no boots or gloves which makes things even worse. In the 4 year + ive played every change has been a backward step this is the worst yet and could break the game permantly and will shutdown in the near future. Stop the rot ditch the warcrests in its present form it an abysmal change penalising low ranked players very heavily.
Yes. I believe this is an issue. Current crest drop rate is balanced around people playing in organized warbands or going around solo killing lower geared players. New players don't have neither of that luxury yet. I get it that "noobs" shouldn't gear as fast as established players, but i definitely think that below 40 sets should be considerably cheaper, because the new player experience is worse with the new system.

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Sufferkate
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Re: warcrest

Post#15 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:05 pm

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Sufferkate
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Re: warcrest

Post#16 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:09 pm

YES , we need this. This would make the battle field more balanced. For over a year I been asking others to level up tanks and healers. And today we still need them. We might have a fighting chance if people were able to switch roles based on what was needed currently , like in other games.
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r4m0n3z
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Re: warcrest

Post#17 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:13 pm

A level 39 scs weapon costs 600 crests.

At lvl 40 (dinged yesterday) I have 150 total. I thought this patch was meant to help new player close the gap with older ones but seems it is the exact contrary

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Omegus
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Re: warcrest

Post#18 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:11 pm

r4m0n3z wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:13 pm A level 39 scs weapon costs 600 crests.

At lvl 40 (dinged yesterday) I have 150 total. I thought this patch was meant to help new player close the gap with older ones but seems it is the exact contrary
Drop counts are now higher than before. The conversion to the new currency was punishing (mainly to prevent vets from getting a bajillion tokens out of their old tier 1-4 crests), but it seems actually getting new crests is much easier than before.
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space44
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Re: warcrest

Post#19 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:12 pm

legitimately i made this post because i had a toon(s) that had soldier medallions and under but the conversion just straight up deleted those medallion and i just thought it would be fair for me and EVERYONE else to have the ability to trade crests from their mains to their alts. the medallions i could have had to gear up my lowest level toons are just completely gone so trading it would at least speed the process of gearing your toons while also having fun not reliving the full and complete need to collect trivial tokens.
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