level bracket 22-31 and 32

[Cyril]

There's people coming to this game all the time lately, i know about 5 guilds that have popped up recently out of knowhere that being said though you just cannot do this at the moment in my opinion.

Who know's maybe later but for now no chance.

[rmpl]

There's people coming to this game all the time lately, i know about 5 guilds that have popped up recently out of knowhere that being said though you just cannot do this at the moment in my opinion.

Who know's maybe later but for now no chance.

Why though.

[Dabbart]

the difference between rank 31 and 32 is negligable. The real issue is "gear" I guess, but again, that is negligable currently. Dev gear is good, but not game breaking OP vs. those that don't have it.

At lvl 12 you get utterly smashed by lvl 20-21's. At lvl 1 you get smashed by lvl 10-11's. The only difference in T3 is that currently, they don't lvl out of the area.

And you just want seperate SCs for rank 32s? Is that even possible? Or do you not want rank 32's to be able to ORvR either?

You're not supposed to be able to directly compete with someone 10 lvls and god only knows how many RR's above you... Understand that, and then realize that you can still be very useful to your team! Just don't try to stand toe-to-toe with someone that is far more powerful than you...

[CzarRedwall]

td a friend of mine a level 23 choppa smashed a lot of stunty eadz by me guarding him and with a good team of support both heals and dps. so really it doesnt matter what level you are, it matters how you play and how your team plays

[rmpl]

the difference between rank 31 and 32 is negligable. The real issue is "gear" I guess, but again, that is negligable currently. Dev gear is good, but not game breaking OP vs. those that don't have it.

At lvl 12 you get utterly smashed by lvl 20-21's. At lvl 1 you get smashed by lvl 10-11's. The only difference in T3 is that currently, they don't lvl out of the area.

And you just want seperate SCs for rank 32s? Is that even possible? Or do you not want rank 32's to be able to ORvR either?

You're not supposed to be able to directly compete with someone 10 lvls and god only knows how many RR's above you... Understand that, and then realize that you can still be very useful to your team! Just don't try to stand toe-to-toe with someone that is far more powerful than you...

10 and 21 isn't same as 22 and rr40.

[Dabbart]

except... that RR is ENTIRELY on you if it's low. You can get rank 20/40 here. If you want to expediate your XP gain and rush through the lvls... Then that's on you.

And if that is the case, then just grind from 21-32. Thats what I did with my WP and WH since I wanted the abilities. Only takes 8hrs or so on Saph champs...


EDIT: I've been on the server less than a month. 2 chars rank 32. And I have spent a BUNCH of time powerleveling other people to be friendly. 32/40 doesn't take long..... I fail to see the need for this change. Getting smashed is a part of being low lvl....

EDIT2: also, if you are low rank? Just survive. You get TONS of XP/RR per kill on those 32/40's... Just stay alive and support the best you can.

[rmpl]

except... that RR is ENTIRELY on you if it's low. You can get rank 20/40 here. If you want to expediate your XP gain and rush through the lvls... Then that's on you.

And if that is the case, then just grind from 21-32. Thats what I did with my WP and WH since I wanted the abilities. Only takes 8hrs or so on Saph champs...


EDIT: I've been on the server less than a month. 2 chars rank 32. And I have spent a BUNCH of time powerleveling other people to be friendly. 32/40 doesn't take long..... I fail to see the need for this change. Getting smashed is a part of being low lvl....

EDIT2: also, if you are low rank? Just survive. You get TONS of XP/RR per kill on those 32/40's... Just stay alive and support the best you can.

RR isn't the point. Someone who is RR40 is probably rocking full devastator, ap jewelry, purple talis and potions - you're saying putting someone like that against rank 22 is fair? That it is the same as rank 12 entering t2?

Don't even come with that "LOL DUDE JUST GET SMASHED AND LEVEL UP TO 32". I did and it was no fun at all. It's not like we can't do something about it, because we can. Again, it's not the same thing as t1 on lvl 1 and t2 on lvl 12. The advantage is much bigger, not to mention all of those premades. That's why people are proposing 22-31 bracket.

[Dabbart]

So your entire argument is based on probably? What about those 32's that can't afford +20 tali's or dev gear? They get crushed too.

I don't like lvling the playing field to the lowest ranked player. I honestly don't think that removing rank 32's will increase the survivability of the lowest possible ranked player for that tier.

What I DO believe it will do however, is dramatically reduce the SC pops for EVERYONE over lvl 22.

Also, you never answered my question. Remove lvl 32s from SCs only, or from ALL RvR with anyone ranked lower than them?

I believe, the REAL issue is premades vs. pugs. Rank has very little to do with it. Premades rock better gear and teamwork. Pugs tend to have **** gear and no coordination.

[rmpl]

So your entire argument is based on probably? What about those 32's that can't afford +20 tali's or dev gear? They get crushed too.

I don't like lvling the playing field to the lowest ranked player. I honestly don't think that removing rank 32's will increase the survivability of the lowest possible ranked player for that tier.

What I DO believe it will do however, is dramatically reduce the SC pops for EVERYONE over lvl 22.

By the time they hit 32 they should at least have +15 talis, two pieces of devastator and full stalker. Much better than greens innit?

Also, you never answered my question. Remove lvl 32s from SCs only, or from ALL RvR with anyone ranked lower than them?

No reason to do that.

[Dabbart]

I am 32 on 2 chars, I can't afford +15 tali's. +10-12 depending on type is frighteningly expensive. And if I can't use the "grind your character" then you can't use the "go grind and make your own!".

Stalker is rank 25 pr 26 for full, and again. Devastator is NOT super crazy OP compared to greens.

And allowing 32's to fight in ORvR but not in SCs just seems strange to me as an arguement to begin with, but that's another topic.

Get better. THEN you can compete. Yes. Low lvl's suck. That is why you gain XP and get better. People who get crushed all the time, are PUGs. People who premade always stand a chance. I PUG almost entirely. When I get crushed, I take a look around and see the reasons for it. If we have no healers/tanks/dps, rank/gear means nothing.

Team based game. A solid premade of 22-31's can and will crush 32 PUGs...