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slaneesha
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Re: Keep Lord

Post#11 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:20 am

Same thing happened tonight in KV, the keep lord simply destroyed half of the players in the wink of an eye :(

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kokkotas
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Re: Keep Lord

Post#12 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:22 am

My brothers how many time, days, months and years need to left for believe this: all the gods and the world are working for destro and for reds in any mmo.
The dark cover all of us.
Stay near brothers, you have faith and fight to the end, darkness not win.
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blaqwar
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Re: Keep Lord

Post#13 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:27 am

kokkotas wrote:My brothers how many time, days, months and years need to left for believe this: all the gods and the world are working for destro and for reds in any mmo.
The dark cover all of us.
Stay near brothers, you have faith and fight to the end, darkness not win.
Your comment perfectly summarizes 80% of the posts on these forums; "all the gods and the world are working for destro and for reds".

Considering either side is red, depending on the perspective. I've never seen a more acute "grass is always greener on the other side" syndrome than WAR. They really **** up only making 2 factions.

lastalien
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Re: Keep Lord

Post#14 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:59 am

Haojin wrote:It's a learn to play issue, get better tanks and increase your coordination instead of mindless zerging.

Some tips:
1-X Guard
2-Taunt
3-Positioning
4-Defensive Morale Rotations.
Thx for master pve tips :) for so many years of playing, I never would have guessed.

I play a little, just the evening online GMT + 3, but never saw the siege of the Phalanx (attack) with similar or superior number of the enemy. Surely they have been successfully completed :)

Seriously, I do not see the point of the strong Lord, when there is the same number of attackers and defenders. There are many advantages of Defense.

And all of the posts on the topic, it is necessary to organize and do the right thing, they are good, but do not make sense.
Why give defenders an additional advantage when their number is equal to or greater than the attackers do not understand. Is it always - defender - legless that they require crutches for the defense of the Keep?
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Gerv
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Re: Keep Lord

Post#15 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:34 am

Sorry, but if your so fixated on zerging your way to victory and no-one on your side can be bothered to get organised to push the zone and set up a group to tank the lord while people wipe the defenders or anything along those lines then why should you be allowed to take the keep?

The rank of the keep determines the strength of the lord, if your going to leave the lord free to run around the middle floor and wipe all your healers / range dps then that is your fault. Not the fault of the defenders.
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lastalien
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Re: Keep Lord

Post#16 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:41 am

Gerv wrote:Sorry, but if your so fixated on zerging your way to victory and no-one on your side can be bothered to get organised to push the zone and set up a group to tank the lord while people wipe the defenders or anything along those lines then why should you be allowed to take the keep?

The rank of the keep determines the strength of the lord, if your going to leave the lord free to run around the middle floor and wipe all your healers / range dps then that is your fault. Not the fault of the defenders.

I do not deny that my English is not very good, but I still have the impression that the writing in this topic is the basic idea that would be something to write, not read already written.

Btw, good guide for siege.
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Mcgotrek
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Re: Keep Lord

Post#17 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:03 am

I support these tough keep lords because i dont think that locking a zone should be easy and something that you should expect to happen when you log in. It's also from a fluffy mcfluff lore perspective, that I like the challenge - it's an entire zone you're trying to lock!
Think of it as a final siege.
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Thayli
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Re: Keep Lord

Post#18 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:49 am

I quite like it. If you're going to have a NPC relevant to a keep siege, at least make it so they require some effort to take down. It wasn't very fun when you could take keeps by simply bombing the lord from the side without even dealing with the majority of the defenders in the keep. Not really that easy anymore now.
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lastalien
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Re: Keep Lord

Post#19 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 6:22 am

For information. The last few days we(Invasion) did not even try to seriously begin to Keep with an equal number of the enemy, because of what was happening in the DW a few days ago. Yesterday had good fights in the CW, the number of Destro was slightly larger, but still they could not get through because of the number of errors, until we went to bed.

The question is, all writers (in this topic) remained opinion about the strong Lord?

If possible, it would be interesting to know the opinion of the commanders who lead the WB on the battlefield. (Of those whom I know - Haojin, Avocetii)
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Haojin
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Re: Keep Lord

Post#20 » Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:17 am

08.12.2016 CW fights, we had at least %40-%60 aao and you saying destro was slightly larger ? Are you kidding ? And we destroyed S keep's outer door while we have %60 aao.

I'm sorry but, you think you deserve to take a keep only playing for 2 hours in EU prime time ? 2 hours is not enough for prime time pushing. Actually i see your alliance got 1 warband after 23:00 pm and it's "enough".

As i said before, order get used to "defending" and "funneling" for months, they simply don't know how to attack.

For my opinion, keep lords are "fine" agaist organized people.
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