WP/DoK Melee and KB's

[Zxul]

As a DPS DoK, solo roamer most of the time - I often meme about being given a gap closer. The reality is, the class would go from a 9/10 to a 30/10 with one.

Reminds me, on live doks had swords with snare proc- 5% for 40% or 46%, don't remember exactly, snare which stack with CoC. And only I and very few other doks were using those, despite doks having entire line of them- each influence weapons tier had one, epic quests had one, and city s3 bags had one.

[Sinisterror]

As a DPS DoK, solo roamer most of the time - I often meme about being given a gap closer. The reality is, the class would go from a 9/10 to a 30/10 with one.

Reminds me, on live doks had swords with snare proc- 5% for 40% or 46%, don't remember exactly, snare which stack with CoC. And only I and very few other doks were using those, despite doks having entire line of them- each influence weapons tier had one, epic quests had one, and city s3 bags had one.

46% was snare proc on WP 1hander so im quessing that was the same. In the earliest version of city siege where it was pve you could get 880 armour debuff sword for dok maybe stage 2 purple bag or random drop from middle bosses stage 3. I was jealous of that sword because you could never get it again like some 700 armour buff cloaks on fortress purple bag. Until the end all those armour procs stack with everything, potions and procs but i think armour debuffs didnt stack after some point, was fun to be rr 40 marauder with armour debuff + armour debuff proc wpn from tier 4 epic quest that stacked so that was like 2700 armour

[Zxul]

As a DPS DoK, solo roamer most of the time - I often meme about being given a gap closer. The reality is, the class would go from a 9/10 to a 30/10 with one.

Reminds me, on live doks had swords with snare proc- 5% for 40% or 46%, don't remember exactly, snare which stack with CoC. And only I and very few other doks were using those, despite doks having entire line of them- each influence weapons tier had one, epic quests had one, and city s3 bags had one.

46% was snare proc on WP 1hander so im quessing that was the same. In the earliest version of city siege where it was pve you could get 880 armour debuff sword for dok maybe stage 2 purple bag or random drop from middle bosses stage 3. I was jealous of that sword because you could never get it again like some 700 armour buff cloaks on fortress purple bag. Until the end all those armour procs stack with everything, potions and procs but i think armour debuffs didnt stack after some point, was fun to be rr 40 marauder with armour debuff + armour debuff proc wpn from tier 4 epic quest that stacked so that was like 2700 armour

Yep, also dok t4 inf chalice had armor buff proc, and one of epic quests chalices had armor debuff proc. Did allow for some interesting setups. In RoR doks only have that armor debuff on warcamp shield.

Also bg 1h epic quest sword had the armor debuff till the end, used that one over lotd one.

[Sinisterror]

Reminds me, on live doks had swords with snare proc- 5% for 40% or 46%, don't remember exactly, snare which stack with CoC. And only I and very few other doks were using those, despite doks having entire line of them- each influence weapons tier had one, epic quests had one, and city s3 bags had one.

46% was snare proc on WP 1hander so im quessing that was the same. In the earliest version of city siege where it was pve you could get 880 armour debuff sword for dok maybe stage 2 purple bag or random drop from middle bosses stage 3. I was jealous of that sword because you could never get it again like some 700 armour buff cloaks on fortress purple bag. Until the end all those armour procs stack with everything, potions and procs but i think armour debuffs didnt stack after some point, was fun to be rr 40 marauder with armour debuff + armour debuff proc wpn from tier 4 epic quest that stacked so that was like 2700 armour

Yep, also dok t4 inf chalice had armor buff proc, and one of epic quests chalices had armor debuff proc. Did allow for some interesting setups. In RoR doks only have that armor debuff on warcamp shield.

Also bg 1h epic quest sword had the armor debuff till the end, used that one over lotd one.

Aye. My main was dps warrior priest on live and that t4 inf book with 700 armour buff proc + 63 or 66 dps 1h hammer with 46% snare proc that was also spirit dmg dot really was fun stuff in duels, eltharion <3 I dont think there was armour debuff book for wp and didnt know/remember there was chalice one for dok. Imo how buffs/debuffs work in this game, something should be changed because nothing stacks with nothing. Im not saying i can stack armour pot + armour proc 700 + armour proc 900 which was possible on live and daaaamn i loved it on my shaman(also run away+odjira+quick escape stacks<3) and wp : D but most skills in terms of buffing/debuffing are close to useless. Chosen/Kotbs aura's imo should be defensive or offensive not both and if not that, then let them use only 2 aura's instead of 3. Change shammy/am resis buff or give it zealot/rp like skill that would actually be good, not some small dot etc. Same for dok/wp prayers/covenants 60 sec cooldown skill that actually does something interesting. I dont know im just annoyed and was annoyed live also that most skills in term of buffing/debuffing are useless;(

EDIT; DoK and WP has armour debuff on bloodlord full right ? Also only on bloodlord there is 5% dmg wpn and alot of good stuffs that are just not attainable in pvp/rvr. Even on new victorius/triumphant gear there is same iniative buff proc while stealing str int etc that is on opressor. I quess im trying to say that not enough options, enough gear yeah but not options really. Some get 15 % crit dmg AND 12 % crit dmg/9 % crit proc on same gear : D also the possibilities of 4 onslaught/4 sovereign on wh/we and sorc/bw <3

[Gurf]

Fewer snares the better, otherwise you might as well just reduce everyone's speed permanently as you spend most of your time snared as it is. All they need to do is make DPS WP as good as DPS DOK and you have no problems.

[Sinisterror]

Fewer snares the better, otherwise you might as well just reduce everyone's speed permanently as you spend most of your time snared as it is. All they need to do is make DPS WP as good as DPS DOK and you have no problems.

Maybe. Odjira will balance it out : D I dont think odjira is going to be here. Anyway someone from the staff from my memroy told me that alot of procs on wpns and gear are "placeholders " or " copied " so im taking that they are going to be chanced? Because good it is annoying when you are still working with the same procs 300 spirit dmg, movement speed proc, avoidance proc etc. Even some of those old buffs would go great to WP 2h and DoK dualwield like movement speed proc but not available. Or pilfer 10%being hit chance to steal 150 heath and absorb 360dmg 5 % chance on hit. Give WP 2hander 15 % proc chance on judgmement 15 % snare and double the dmg of prayer of righteousness(maybe only on wp) Chance WP 2handers to slower speed maybe to 4.1-5-5 seconds for big hits and change WP AA haste dmg tactic to 75 % instead of 50 %

It would be really good to give RR points to use at RR 30 40 50 60 70 so adding 1 more career point.Maybe RR 80 had passive +1 on all skill level. Add +2 on careers back to ruin/merce/anni etc gear. Remove +2 from sove/warlord because these sets should have unique 5-8 piece bonus/proc because it is last sets so to speak and the +2 ones are either very good or no good. Proc up on 5th piece like " Sigmars Shield/Devour essense does +25% critical dmg and cooldown is reduced to 15 seconds instead of 20. After 6 piece bonus red frenzy type 25 % AA dmg 7 piece on hit to get action/resource mechanic points is good one. Old imperator/overlord for dok/wp was amazing, 2,5 sec cooldown away from rend sould/divine assault<3 never had chance to test it but im gonna assume it was very good. WP even had 2 hander wpn with 12 % critical dmg + 9 crit proc 10%chance on hit from tier 4 epic quest same ones that now are epic quests. Both dok and wp need that proc back!

[bossabe]

there is no gap closer in this game , just get behind a tank , and pray everyone know what they are doing