Destro entering Hatred's Way Non-Flagged

[Emissary]

Oh look who cries... No way to gank solo players, who tries to reach fort, by zerg fest huh?

Who are you and why do you matter?

I stated a suggestion, if they take my suggestion who cares if they do not who cares. Trying to make the RoR experience the same for all. If you literally have no constructive feedback keep your troll mouth shut. Others that posted the other keep that order can get into unflagged were at least constructive you add nothing to this so troll somewhere else or get a life one or the other. All you did here is show your real life inadequacies to me on a forum, congratulations.

[normanis]

keep switches so its not big deal. big deal is u cant respawn in keep.

[Kaeldrick]

There has been several threads of both order and destro complaining that each faction can just run unflaggd into keeps but I haven't seen any dev response to that yet. Would be nice if there could be a statement in this thread whether it's looked into or it's working as intended.

No it's not being looked into, keep ownership switches sides often and there are many different spots that both factions could use to their advantage. At the moment there are various other things the devs are working on that are way ahead in priority. Not sure how it could be addressed in the future either, changing how everything works for the sake of a few locations would be hectic.

This is completely untrue, Destruction rarely benefits, even never, from the PvE-flagged-run-into-postern.

If you find one on Destruction side, please let me know. Here are the 2 examples of keeps far too easy to defend for Order, being a huge problem for years : Arbor of light in Eataine and Thickmuck pit in Badlands. Thickmuck pit is also very hard to defend for Destruction as Order attackers spawn right uptop the 2 posterns making them very easy to protect. A third one would be Well of Qhaysh in Saphery but it's just less known.

There is a simple solution : remove PvE flag as soon as player enters in open area. I can't see any use for this flag except allowing such game breaking situations as full (Order only) warbands PvE flagged running freely into postern.

Now I will tell you the reality of things when Order uses this unique feature, this is what happens on chat on Destro side each time :

- Veteran destro scout : "Order warband running into postern! Wait nevermind, they're PvE flagged"
- New player, fresh in T4 : "How? Why is that?"
- Other destro veteran players : "They have few keeps like that, they can run into them freely"
- New player, fresh in T4 : "Oh! And for us?"
- Destro players : "None, devs want to keep that advantage for themselves as they play Order, they don't want to fix it neither."

I suppose that this will never end. Most of time we don't see the "New player, fresh in T4" anymore, probably rerolling an Order toon

[Kpi]

There has been several threads of both order and destro complaining that each faction can just run unflaggd into keeps but I haven't seen any dev response to that yet. Would be nice if there could be a statement in this thread whether it's looked into or it's working as intended.

No it's not being looked into, keep ownership switches sides often and there are many different spots that both factions could use to their advantage. At the moment there are various other things the devs are working on that are way ahead in priority. Not sure how it could be addressed in the future either, changing how everything works for the sake of a few locations would be hectic.

This is completely untrue, Destruction rarely benefits, even never, from the PvE-flagged-run-into-postern.

If you find one on Destruction side, please let me know. Here are the 2 examples of keeps far too easy to defend for Order, being a huge problem for years : Arbor of light in Eataine and Thickmuck pit in Badlands. Thickmuck pit is also very hard to defend for Destruction as Order attackers spawn right uptop the 2 posterns making them very easy to protect. A third one would be Well of Qhaysh in Saphery but it's just less known.

There is a simple solution : remove PvE flag as soon as player enters in open area. I can't see any use for this flag except allowing such game breaking situations as full (Order only) warbands PvE flagged running freely into postern.

This happens in both sides, and you know it

I saw FULL destro WBS getting inside of Caledor West Keep, and we can't do nothing for block this. They do War report to chapter, log out, log in and move inside of the keep. And this is not funny when you are trying to cap the zone coordinating with another WBs to cut off the way of reinforcements.

But as i said in my first sentence, this happens in both sides

[Kaeldrick]

A suggestion would be to figure out how to stop destro running into Hatred's Way not RVR flagged from their PVE zone. Most destro can make it to the inner wall before being flagged for RVR.

I will try this, if it's real then we have one on Destro side!

[Kaeldrick]

No it's not being looked into, keep ownership switches sides often and there are many different spots that both factions could use to their advantage. At the moment there are various other things the devs are working on that are way ahead in priority. Not sure how it could be addressed in the future either, changing how everything works for the sake of a few locations would be hectic.

This is completely untrue, Destruction rarely benefits, even never, from the PvE-flagged-run-into-postern.

If you find one on Destruction side, please let me know. Here are the 2 examples of keeps far too easy to defend for Order, being a huge problem for years : Arbor of light in Eataine and Thickmuck pit in Badlands. Thickmuck pit is also very hard to defend for Destruction as Order attackers spawn right uptop the 2 posterns making them very easy to protect. A third one would be Well of Qhaysh in Saphery but it's just less known.

There is a simple solution : remove PvE flag as soon as player enters in open area. I can't see any use for this flag except allowing such game breaking situations as full (Order only) warbands PvE flagged running freely into postern.

This happens in both sides, and you know it

I saw FULL destro WBS getting inside of Caledor West Keep, and we can't do nothing for block this. They do War report to chapter, log out, log in and move inside of the keep. And this is not funny when you are trying to cap the zone coordinating with another WBs to cut off the way of reinforcements.

But as i said in my first sentence, this happens in both sides

Actually yeah, it's not fun for any side.

That's why I'm suggesting to remove the useless 10sec timer before the PvP tag.

[Sulorie]

You don't really complain about having defenders in keep, don't you? ;^)

[Kaeldrick]

Personally, I complain about a broken system not fun for anyone.

It's not normal/fair to see players enter a RvR structure while being flagged for PvE, I consider this as an abuse and it doesn't matter who's abusing.

What could be wrong with reducing that timer to 5sec and see effects? It's not hard/time consuming for devs to change a "10" into a "5" and I'm pretty sure that it will benefit to the server, it would be one "bias" redundant subject less.

[Darks63]

I would rather they look into the Destro Elf fort north bo spot that ports you out of the fort if you go near it.

[Meliannia]

Who are you and why do you matter?

I stated a suggestion, if they take my suggestion who cares if they do not who cares. Trying to make the RoR experience the same for all. If you literally have no constructive feedback keep your troll mouth shut. Others that posted the other keep that order can get into unflagged were at least constructive you add nothing to this so troll somewhere else or get a life one or the other. All you did here is show your real life inadequacies to me on a forum, congratulations.

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