Discordant SCs

[Nickalispicalis]

Why is it not possible to attract more N/A players?

Lag, Latency and Packet-loss is why. I'm in the west coast of NA and it's bad, especially when playing as a melee. I am in the last steps of getting my WH to 80 and at times it's so bad as to be funny, try to KD but even though I see that I'm right on top of someone the KD wont fire, or it does go off only they are several steps ahead or behind me and at best I lose 1 GCD or at worst waste the KD entirely. People walk away from me either mounted or not, I'll be running with a warband and they will slowly pull away from me, and kiters have no problem getting out of melee range even if they are snared.

This is not so horrible on a range toon but sometimes you just want to melee and its very frustrating, so yeah its a great game with some of the best PvP you can get in a MMO but you are not on the same playing field as the EU folks.

It doesn't run that great from Greece to be honest, but then again, nothing much does these days.

[Toshutkidup]

West coat NA latency shouldn’t be that bad if you have a good isp. I was 220-290ms when I lived west coast. Now that I’m east coast I’m between 100-160ms. Now NZ,Aus from what I hear are 300-500ms+

[Tesq]

inb4 "it's just summer lul"

It kinda is lol, as much as I hate to admit it. Don't get me wrong there's probably some population contraction due to the never ending 2 week delay on the new ability system and people are tired of waiting for some new changes. But also people are going on holiday and doing more social stuff outside the game. It only leaves the old guard behind to keep it ticking over. For the EU pop it's fine, we still get around 700-800. But for NA at 150-200 it becomes a bit desperate. In those situations I can definitely support a cross faction mode being enabled during low pop just to keep SC's poping. As much as the lore goblin is screaming inside me.

Ye kinda just summer, im amazed still this many ppl during this summer still logged on really.

[rejndjer]

Why is it not possible to attract more N/A players?

Lag, Latency and Packet-loss is why. I'm in the west coast of NA and it's bad, especially when playing as a melee. I am in the last steps of getting my WH to 80 and at times it's so bad as to be funny, try to KD but even though I see that I'm right on top of someone the KD wont fire, or it does go off only they are several steps ahead or behind me and at best I lose 1 GCD or at worst waste the KD entirely. People walk away from me either mounted or not, I'll be running with a warband and they will slowly pull away from me, and kiters have no problem getting out of melee range even if they are snared.

This is not so horrible on a range toon but sometimes you just want to melee and its very frustrating, so yeah its a great game with some of the best PvP you can get in a MMO but you are not on the same playing field as the EU folks.

fwiw i get this same kind of problem a lot of times and i live in europe. also all my friends who have tryed ror have said it's "unresponsive", meaning actions are not taken upon keystroke and also actions and animations are not synchronized at all.

[anarchypark]

Well another thing to consider (in addition to all the above) is why would you do SCs at all when NA has the best oRvR experience for roaming? There is usually at most two warbands active on each side so the chances of getting run down diminish greatly.

There are SC junkies, of course, but I think a lot of people queue SCs to escape getting zerged down. NA doesn't really have the problem therefore less random SCs firing.

NA is pvd time zone.
NA destro is about to extinct.
where is this "best orvr" coming from??

[Amdus]

inb4 "it's just summer lul"

It kinda is lol, as much as I hate to admit it. Don't get me wrong there's probably some population contraction due to the never ending 2 week delay on the new ability system and people are tired of waiting for some new changes. But also people are going on holiday and doing more social stuff outside the game. It only leaves the old guard behind to keep it ticking over. For the EU pop it's fine, we still get around 700-800. But for NA at 150-200 it becomes a bit desperate. In those situations I can definitely support a cross faction mode being enabled during low pop just to keep SC's poping. As much as the lore goblin is screaming inside me.

We are reaching levels of cope never thought possible.

One of the reasons of why NA destro is dead is because one of the most active guilds got his GM banned (unjustified and for petty reasons in our opinion) and the majority quit in solidarity (around 20 players). In another major guild (15-30 players on average) the GM quit due to some drama and it never recovered.

I mean, having lost 50+ players is quite noticeable. But yeah mate, I'll tag along, "it's summer lol".

[Scottx125]

inb4 "it's just summer lul"

It kinda is lol, as much as I hate to admit it. Don't get me wrong there's probably some population contraction due to the never ending 2 week delay on the new ability system and people are tired of waiting for some new changes. But also people are going on holiday and doing more social stuff outside the game. It only leaves the old guard behind to keep it ticking over. For the EU pop it's fine, we still get around 700-800. But for NA at 150-200 it becomes a bit desperate. In those situations I can definitely support a cross faction mode being enabled during low pop just to keep SC's poping. As much as the lore goblin is screaming inside me.

We are reaching levels of cope never thought possible.

One of the reasons of why NA destro is dead is because one of the most active guilds got his GM banned (unjustified and for petty reasons in our opinion) and the majority quit in solidarity (around 20 players). In another major guild (15-30 players on average) the GM quit due to some drama and it never recovered.

I mean, having lost 50+ players is quite noticeable. But yeah mate, I'll tag along, "it's summer lol".

I've been playing this game on and off for 8, nearly 9 years. The population has always been this way lol.. And if you think this is bad. Travel back in time to 2014-2016 when we only had t1-T2 zones open. Population in those first few years during EU prime hit a peak of 250, then 500. Then it hovered around 1.2-1.5k when we had balance changes and new content being added. Then we had the LazyPeon wave that boosted it to around 2k, I think we had a peak of close to 3k. But that only lasted half a year, 3/4 of a year at most before it dropped back to the normal 1.2-1.5k. Since then, there's been little to no new major content updates, no major balance changes, annoying bugs still left unfixed. And this isn't a jab at the devs. They're unpaid volunteers who've done amazing work. But people just get tired and bored of the same thing and eventually leave, some come back. But not enough to grow the population. So yes, there is a slow decline in population. Honestly I'm surprised it hasn't gone faster, we've gone from 1.2k-1.5k 2-3 years ago to 800-1k at peak. The summer tends to cause a 20-30% drop in max population, over the past few weeks the pop has maxed during the week days at around 700 during peak times. NA on the other hand is a different kettle of fish, you've gone from 400 peak to around 300. I've seen population lows at around 150. At that point even SC's stop popping often. Which is why in those cases when the match maker is struggling to get a pop, it should mix and match order and destro to get any kind of SC going.

In terms of reviving NA pop to better population levels, I've no idea how to do that, all I can say is more content, balance changes etc. But the biggest recruiter for this game has always been word of mouth. If the NA population wants more population, they have to start getting people they know involved in the game.

[RORquest]

inb4 "it's just summer lul"

It kinda is lol, as much as I hate to admit it. Don't get me wrong there's probably some population contraction due to the never ending 2 week delay on the new ability system and people are tired of waiting for some new changes. But also people are going on holiday and doing more social stuff outside the game. It only leaves the old guard behind to keep it ticking over. For the EU pop it's fine, we still get around 700-800. But for NA at 150-200 it becomes a bit desperate. In those situations I can definitely support a cross faction mode being enabled during low pop just to keep SC's poping. As much as the lore goblin is screaming inside me.

We are reaching levels of cope never thought possible.

One of the reasons of why NA destro is dead is because one of the most active guilds got his GM banned (unjustified and for petty reasons in our opinion) and the majority quit in solidarity (around 20 players). In another major guild (15-30 players on average) the GM quit due to some drama and it never recovered.

I mean, having lost 50+ players is quite noticeable. But yeah mate, I'll tag along, "it's summer lol".

Guild who just farmed pugbands finally met a guild in city and just quit, i think the ban was deserved also order still PVD despite ''50'' quiting. Egohammer people really arent as important as they think they are The game goes on and on.

[Garamore]

Guild who just farmed pugbands finally met a guild in city and just quit, i think the ban was deserved also order still PVD despite ''50'' quiting. Egohammer people really arent as important as they think they are The game goes on and on.

Is that actually true though. 1000's of players have quit city and not been banned, many before a fight takes place.

[RORquest]

Guild who just farmed pugbands finally met a guild in city and just quit, i think the ban was deserved also order still PVD despite ''50'' quiting. Egohammer people really arent as important as they think they are The game goes on and on.

Is that actually true though. 1000's of players have quit city and not been banned, many before a fight takes place.

Not sure the only person i heard being banned was from leaving a city what else could the gm have done?