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Stinkyweed
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Discordant SCs

Post#1 » Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:46 am

NA Discordant is not popping much anymore. Time to make discordant like ranked where you mix/match all que'd people to balance out the teams. 4 destro healers que'd and no order...no problem, each aide gets two. Maybe I can fight aside Martok instead of stabbing him with daggers or shooting with my bow.
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Re: Discordant SCs

Post#2 » Fri Jun 16, 2023 5:30 am

A couple months ago late night server pop dipped to like 250 or so at its lowest. Generally when server dipped below 300 oRvR died out as soon as the last order keep didn't have 2* anymore. People would then queue discordant as it was the only action left.

It's only 10:30p on the West Coast, so there are still a fair few that haven't gone to bed yet, but server pop is down to 150. It's approaching critical mass where there will be no point in playing this late, and server pop will snowball during off peak hours rather quick.

Also if it's only the same 15 or so on each side queueing, and your side has the same dumb healer that forgets what their buttons do and the shield tank that slaps guard on a backline healer and then charges deep into enemy lines, why would you continue queueing vs. the same 3 80+ sov enemies?
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Re: Discordant SCs

Post#3 » Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:58 am

inb4 "it's just summer lul"

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Re: Discordant SCs

Post#4 » Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:34 am

rejndjer wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:58 am inb4 "it's just summer lul"
It kinda is lol, as much as I hate to admit it. Don't get me wrong there's probably some population contraction due to the never ending 2 week delay on the new ability system and people are tired of waiting for some new changes. But also people are going on holiday and doing more social stuff outside the game. It only leaves the old guard behind to keep it ticking over. For the EU pop it's fine, we still get around 700-800. But for NA at 150-200 it becomes a bit desperate. In those situations I can definitely support a cross faction mode being enabled during low pop just to keep SC's poping. As much as the lore goblin is screaming inside me.
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Re: Discordant SCs

Post#5 » Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:35 pm

I always wondered why NA has such problem with population? People do play games anymore?

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Post#6 » Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:34 pm

I thought discordant should be better and greater after duos we're banned from it? No? Wish someone had said before that this was a bad Idea ...
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Re: Discordant SCs

Post#7 » Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:05 pm

I have stated suggestions in the past on how to get NA timezone active again, but to no avail.

When you are on NA time and logon and play 4 hours to get the same amount of renown that EU players get in less than an hour it sucks all the fun out of it. Other guildies have had 4 alts in the last year that they have gotten to 80+ playing EU Primetime and I am stuck in the late 60s on 4 of mine putting in the exact same hours; just different times.

However, the Summer excuse is very true.
For me it is weekends spent on the lake, grilling out and outside chores. Plus does not hurt that D4 came out and my son wants to play that game with me, when he will not play this one due to the low pop on NA.


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I thought discordant should be better and greater after duos we're banned from it? No? Wish someone had said before that this was a bad Idea ...
As far as the troll post about duo queing in scs, I lost a few friends during that timeframe that have still not come back to the game because it was let go for so long. Is it anyone's fault they play a better tuned class and/or are better in skill level than them, no. There is a difference in the placebo effect that you get from winning scs over and over again in a video game. Or the placebo effect you get from taking a good game and destroying it for your own fun (not directing that to you, just those that felt that way). I have been in 6 mans where we just stopped queuing after we stomped pugs in scs for a few of them just because we did not want to have destro stop playing in scs.
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Re: Discordant SCs

Post#8 » Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:12 pm

Why is it not possible to attract more N/A players?
In my opinion, this is the best PVP play out there. What are the alternatives? WOW, guildwars, FF14? For me, I can't see ever going back to those games.
The grind in this game is not bad at all. You can play for an hour or two casually, no demands placed on you.

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Re: Discordant SCs

Post#9 » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:44 pm

Nickalispicalis wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:12 pm Why is it not possible to attract more N/A players?
Lag, Latency and Packet-loss is why. I'm in the west coast of NA and it's bad, especially when playing as a melee. I am in the last steps of getting my WH to 80 and at times it's so bad as to be funny, try to KD but even though I see that I'm right on top of someone the KD wont fire, or it does go off only they are several steps ahead or behind me and at best I lose 1 GCD or at worst waste the KD entirely. People walk away from me either mounted or not, I'll be running with a warband and they will slowly pull away from me, and kiters have no problem getting out of melee range even if they are snared.

This is not so horrible on a range toon but sometimes you just want to melee and its very frustrating, so yeah its a great game with some of the best PvP you can get in a MMO but you are not on the same playing field as the EU folks.

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Re: Discordant SCs

Post#10 » Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:32 pm

Well another thing to consider (in addition to all the above) is why would you do SCs at all when NA has the best oRvR experience for roaming? There is usually at most two warbands active on each side so the chances of getting run down diminish greatly.

There are SC junkies, of course, but I think a lot of people queue SCs to escape getting zerged down. NA doesn't really have the problem therefore less random SCs firing.

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