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Rapzel
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Re: SC system needs a change

Post#11 » Wed May 06, 2026 4:46 pm

Nameless wrote: Wed May 06, 2026 3:49 pm
Rapzel wrote: Wed May 06, 2026 2:23 pm Still do not understand how fixing the rewards will improve the quality of the scenarios.
The quality of the matches are still on the same level. What has been achieved is longer queue times and the predicted frustration of playing in a group. Chasing the already scarce 6 man players away once more.
We protested and warned everyone that this would be a broken system and pointed out the flaws people now are experiencing, yet this was implemented without barely any "testing". Incentives have not worked in a long time, why would they start now? What happened with ranked, the rewards there are excellent compared to all other content yet it is dead.
We told you to not make a massive overhaul, but rather small changes and QoL updates, and look where we are now.

Wonder why players question the vision and competence.
From my view quality of games is much better nowadays. The problem is that i just dont have scen poping off primetime and even at primetime at the week days you got wait time.
I played 30 games this weekend.
Weekend scenario only.
Not a single one was a close game.
One was close because one side let one guy on the opposite faction run the BO, but it ended 34-5 in kills (full pug both sides).
My win/loss ratio was close to 2:1.
Seeing BIS snb tanks keyboard turn is not quality games, even if you get 100 more points on the board.

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illumius
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Re: SC system needs a change

Post#12 » Wed May 06, 2026 9:39 pm

It's just a matter of returning the condition that you must play scenarios to obtain the best weapons and potions. Low IQ casuals who chase the crown should see how they are defeated by 1-2 groups and strive to become the same. However, this should be done correctly. It is important to assign the task of class balance to competent individuals.
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Nameless
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Re: SC system needs a change

Post#13 » Wed May 06, 2026 10:11 pm

Scenario mode is the learning place so you need initiative for ppl to play it so they could learn their classes. Then you will have quality rise
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Fey
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Re: SC system needs a change

Post#14 » Thu May 07, 2026 12:12 am

The only way to increase the scenario queue pool is incentives. A specific amount of renown and crests guaranteed. 5k and 5 is a good start.

Something like unique trophies could sweeten the deal. Every weekend event should have a scenario-themed trophy attached to it. Get to three pips, and the trophy is included in rewards.
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Rapzel
Posts: 491

Re: SC system needs a change

Post#15 » Thu May 07, 2026 6:30 am

Nameless wrote: Wed May 06, 2026 10:11 pm Scenario mode is the learning place so you need initiative for ppl to play it so they could learn their classes. Then you will have quality rise
People don't want to learn their classes. People want to press button and get rewarded.
Blobbing is low effort and obviously that is what people like.
Same with regen builds for solo.

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kpihuss
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Re: SC system needs a change

Post#16 » Thu May 07, 2026 8:34 am

The SCs need exclusive rewards (like special gear/weapons) to motivate the people to play it. Just like PVE dungeons...
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TrainInVain
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Re: SC system needs a change

Post#17 » Thu May 07, 2026 10:26 am

On order, make a separate rdps queue. j/kk, though it can be extremely hard to win when all your dps kite straight back to base.

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kleinbuchstabe
Posts: 170

Re: SC system needs a change

Post#18 » Thu May 07, 2026 11:53 am

The System itself is very fine imo. The matchmaker works and improved the qualitiy of battles. Also the new Lobby is a great new feature, and that you can see the the people who are in current queue. I think it improved the base for Scenarios in a very good way.

The only problem left is, that there seem to be no incentive for people to queue for SC, exept of the fun-factor of playing SC itself. Without people queuing, the matchmaker cant make matches... You can see in the queue numbers, that most of the time not even 5% of server population is queuing. Or in other words, more than 95% of the population dont care about Scenarios at all. Wich is very weird in a pvp game... But well. People seem to need their dopamin kick in form of rewards, like crests, gear, or whatever.

So, like mentioned many times before, the soultion is easy: Raise the rewards for playing Scenarios, in whatever way.
Create a weekly, give more crests, more renown, SC exclusive gear, re-implement SC-Crest-currency, whatever. But you have to feed the dopamin junkies in some way, if you want to make them que. Good bait catches fine fish.

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eigner93
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Re: SC system needs a change

Post#19 » Thu May 07, 2026 1:24 pm

This topic has been brought up several times since the sc rework and many people including myself said that they just need to introduce better rewards to motivate people to que up. We can only hope that the dev team saw these and they will react soon.

Pinrri
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Re: SC system needs a change

Post#20 » Thu May 07, 2026 2:45 pm

Add the pve exclusive items like the darkpromise weapons as scenario rewards, bis and really good items for pvp shouldnt be obtained by pve or atleast they should have an alternative to get them from pvp.

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