Warcamp farming

[nebelwerfer]

There is a discussion to be had about ror etiquette. Its never been great, but getting war crests from anything and needing an obscene amount + buffing ganking archtypes has me feeling like were on the wrong path

There is a big difference between joining a fight and deleting one. That goes for small and large scale rvr.

[Shineobi]

Players are worth no crest and no rr until they participate in a kill on an enemy or participate in the taking of a Battle objective.

[Neucleaus]

I actually like the thought of this hero idea. What if the hero was like a siege engine/ram where it spawns under certain conditions. Then a player or guild can make it "follow" them to assist in fights to help balance things out.

Could be interesting. Or give an option for a merchant to spawn and you can pay X gold to "buy a companion" that does something to help you fight an outnumbered battle. If you go out of X range of warcamp it despawns or turns around. Not sure what would make it fair.

Maybe easier said than done though.

[Akalukz]

well king of the hill was supposed to be something like that. but it doesn't work and I fear it would be easily gained as it is only tied to AAO, which we all know is often wrong and easily gamed.

Bring in some LoTD buff/debuff. Let the small groups reign for a bit. Everyone is tired of the zerg or be zerged play style.

[wonshot]

A couple of thoughts on this

As someone else pointed out, when the action moves from the center of the map closer to one realm's warcamp, that is usually the result of outnumbering or outperforming between the two realms.

Several exits exsist in warcamps, praag often becomes a WC camp despite having a handful of different exist routes.
So why is that?

Players who are built to fight and organized to battle, will seak out the enemy. if the enemy is containted or pushed back to their warcamp, then that will be the location where you can find the enemy. If you have several strong allied warbands or groups, it can become an internal battle to hit the enemys before your allies does, very often leading to dogpiling and "zerging" down smaller forces to quill your own thirst. (at the risk of overfishing and killing your own food supply and action)
Now from the other side, there is a false sense of security by being pushed back to the warcamp and why we often dont see the camped realm attempting to go else where. Prior to being WC pushed they very likely lost roaming battles, got outmanubered in either raw movementspeed pushes and killspeed and fights were onesided. Being at the warcamp you can garentee to not get flanked, you can often not get fully wiped on your backline and you can gareentee to have all archtypes functional in any low quality clashes. Tanks will be frontline, ranged will be safe shooting and healers be safe freecasting. On top of that aoe canons and warcamp buff helps the loosing realm too. Absorbing a push, surviving it and counterpushing is a strategy that can sometimes liberate a warcamp.

And this is honestly why i think wc camping is not attempted to be fixed, because the team that is losing the fights in the lake, would under a different system have to go back out to fight on an objective and get rolled without the safeguard of a garenteed front-to-back fight near wc guards.

I cant possible think of any other reason why the team by now for five plus years havnt tried to make Battleobjectives more appealing, because they know the organized groups will stand better on their own and the progression players will have to spread out across the map and no longer having several open warband crowns providing safety in numbers. So the RoR RvR team have decited this is the quality we can have, to keep a healthy population at all cost. So here we are in 2026 burger king crowns, blob back and forth at the wcs and wc camping.
(RvR team at any point feel free to prove me wrong! ive been waiting since 2021 now)