Cant't win, won't play

[Fallenkezef]

Aye, I remember when sc's where linked to the rvr.

I dont think having a pug-only mode is altogether a bad thing. Caters to a wider audience.

There is a certain truth to premades hunting pugs for easy farming. On live my guild had farming nights where we would do just that. Nature of the beast.

While I do accept that premades have an inherent snd natural advantage over pugs and dont think that will or even should change. I do think a pug only mode, if only one sc is a good idea.

I think the current balance works to be honest, wr have the daily pug sc and while open to abuse does generaly work.

Just wish we could kick the guys who take one look at the enemy team and go afk. May even reduce que times with people willing to fight it out geeting the afker's place

[Fallenkezef]

@op
this is RoR, you will win even you lose. what you really expect mate ? how this game be more easymode for casual players ? i really don't know.

-even you lose scenario you'll be rewarded by emblems.
-even you lose RvR you'll be rewarded by bags -even better than winners-
-you have a chance that q for pug scenario and get rewarded
-you can take zones with pug zerg, keep lord is easy peasy
-you can take zones even without taking keep, all you need is patience like 4 hour
-you can sit on a aoe cannon and get kills/medals ect

what do you expect mate ? just tell me, i wanna listen.

I expect you to read the op and not accuse me of something i havn't said. Or is thst too much to ask?

[Axerker]

Just adding my two cents about the whole pug vs premade issue. My opinions are just opinions.


I think that the largest majority of the problems would be fixed by making the bracket 16-39, rather than 16-40. Give 40s their own bracket and the issues mainly go away. A lot of 40s aren't pugging, they're premades, so this will reduce the stomping on lower level matched teams. This also gives the 40s the competitive chance they want, and evens the playing field.

That is all. Good luck everybody.

[Telen]

There's 3 conflicting game mechanics that don't mesh well, that causes a lot of the issue. Other games handle them far better.

The mmo gear grind. Which incentives pres wanting to pug farm and also creates a barrier to casual players.

The spec specific division of gear between rvr and scs. Meaning you have to face pres even if you have no interest in doing so to get certain gear. Which leads to people that aren't willing to just get farmed having to do scs.

The heavily role based meta and being locked into the roles you get without option to switch as more modern mmos have.

If you look back at Wrath of Heroes. That was an attempt to take scenarios out of the limitations these mechanics put on them. Of course even there you had some unbalanced fights but it was nowhere near the level you got in the WAR. It also had the feature that would have solved most of WARs bigger problems. 3 sided fights.