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Twick
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#171 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:58 pm

zij83 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:31 pm
Wam wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:00 pm
zij83 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:24 pm

So when destro says there's a problem it's destro tears, but when a change is made that you haven't even experienced yet to do something about the destro fort defense rate it's OP and the devs have lost their mind. I will again correct the record for you since you seem intent to lie and push a narrative that you are a god that just shows destro how its done. You did not prove anything, you assisted in winning a fort attack which is something destro already does around 50% of the time. It's clear from your remarks on these forums that no argument you make for order or against destro can be taken in good faith. I will however help you out with something today. Hyperbole. That's how it's spelled.
hahaha you are too funny and think what you want mate

there is a difference between fabricated problem in the mindset(whinge mentality), and real problem in the actual balance... Mate i do not need to push any narrative, i just speak from my own personal experience, and if it varies from yours then thats how it is. I call things how i see them, and i dont have allegiance or "bias" like you obviously to do (to destro) to one faction or other... because if a game breaking balance like this is pushed through i will just refuse to play the side which is nerfed and play the side which is buffed to show how broken it is... when things are reverted and balance restored then I can pick and choose, either for aao, gearing x y z or potentially better fights.

Destro throw forts, they passively sit in the floor above, let the lord die 100-0% without pushing down despite having morales... then say there is a problem with defending? haha yeah there is, the mindset of people like you is the problem with defending thinking its impossible that the big bad order boogeyman is going to get them... there are not that many strong guilds on order bar few exceptions and the ones that are barely push forts, its most pug / guild lite on order pushing forts... they ain't that hard to stop, but if you stop them then you do not get city... and destro want city for shiny loots... that is how it is, hence why GM's had to mute outspoken throwers on destro side many times, that culture was alot less on order side.

Also if we was on destro and fmj on primetime, you really think defensive forts would be happening? hahaha no... unless serverly outnumbured and even then if we was full wb and fmj was 2 full wb in same fort... it would need something special from order to a) get to fort b) take that fort... even when we are smaller number and less min maxed we can still give order a bad time.

-25% chance to be crit to everyone is very extreme hence why the massive reaction, and why someone like me needs to be outspoken to give feedback. Many minor issues i am silent on one way or the other.

If kotbs had something similar i would bring attention to it just the same... because it breaks the game and that is not healthy for the server... from someone who swapped sides due to dead order population and helped propped it up, i did for "action" and health of server even though it requires way more effort to min max on large scale both sides... so yeah please come at me with more of that bias agenda just because we have different opinions.

I have 80's both side, full sov both side... hundreds of thousands of kills when i lead on destro for years and thats just my chosen... and you think i am anti destro lmao you couldn't make it up. Destro is my guilds natural home, but you know with lack of competition and LBL collapse in summer meant someone had to fill the void... when you arrive with a proper warband and enemy leaves within a hour and you have 3 hour raid planned it gets pretty boring and with the lockout system screwing guilds who want to chase fights more than in the past it becomes tedious to swap back and forth mid raid.

Just because you have learn to play issues and struggle in forts, doesnt mean its a balance issue so stop acting like it is. You constantly go on and on about it ad nauseam. I see less complaints about forts when we swap sides and push 2 cities this week... 100% success rate btw but whose counting :lol: issue is players in fort and usually weak compo/mentality and skill level. (the people who afk after 1 wipe)
You really think you matter a lot don't you. How do you fit that head through fort doors? People like you make me want to vomit, it's bad enough I have to deal with people like you in life and then to think you would bring an attitude like that to a video game. How sad and fragile you must be to constantly talk yourself up like this.
And who tf are you? LMAO.

Someone who leads arguably one the strongest guilds on destro and order and who cares about the health of the server and community triggers you?

Like him or not, the dude is good for the server and the game.

Why don't you do some good for the server and lead your own super awesome guild and bring health to the server and then switch to the opposite faction for server health? No? Too difficult? Much easier to just sit there and throw stones? Thought so.

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Elemint
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#172 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:05 pm

JarlBerzirk wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:32 pm Have you tested it? Because that other dude has and said its not even that good...
Yeah. And i'm saying it's disgustingly good. Now what?

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zij83
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#173 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:06 pm

Twick wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:58 pm
zij83 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:31 pm
Wam wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:00 pm

hahaha you are too funny and think what you want mate

there is a difference between fabricated problem in the mindset(whinge mentality), and real problem in the actual balance... Mate i do not need to push any narrative, i just speak from my own personal experience, and if it varies from yours then thats how it is. I call things how i see them, and i dont have allegiance or "bias" like you obviously to do (to destro) to one faction or other... because if a game breaking balance like this is pushed through i will just refuse to play the side which is nerfed and play the side which is buffed to show how broken it is... when things are reverted and balance restored then I can pick and choose, either for aao, gearing x y z or potentially better fights.

Destro throw forts, they passively sit in the floor above, let the lord die 100-0% without pushing down despite having morales... then say there is a problem with defending? haha yeah there is, the mindset of people like you is the problem with defending thinking its impossible that the big bad order boogeyman is going to get them... there are not that many strong guilds on order bar few exceptions and the ones that are barely push forts, its most pug / guild lite on order pushing forts... they ain't that hard to stop, but if you stop them then you do not get city... and destro want city for shiny loots... that is how it is, hence why GM's had to mute outspoken throwers on destro side many times, that culture was alot less on order side.

Also if we was on destro and fmj on primetime, you really think defensive forts would be happening? hahaha no... unless serverly outnumbured and even then if we was full wb and fmj was 2 full wb in same fort... it would need something special from order to a) get to fort b) take that fort... even when we are smaller number and less min maxed we can still give order a bad time.

-25% chance to be crit to everyone is very extreme hence why the massive reaction, and why someone like me needs to be outspoken to give feedback. Many minor issues i am silent on one way or the other.

If kotbs had something similar i would bring attention to it just the same... because it breaks the game and that is not healthy for the server... from someone who swapped sides due to dead order population and helped propped it up, i did for "action" and health of server even though it requires way more effort to min max on large scale both sides... so yeah please come at me with more of that bias agenda just because we have different opinions.

I have 80's both side, full sov both side... hundreds of thousands of kills when i lead on destro for years and thats just my chosen... and you think i am anti destro lmao you couldn't make it up. Destro is my guilds natural home, but you know with lack of competition and LBL collapse in summer meant someone had to fill the void... when you arrive with a proper warband and enemy leaves within a hour and you have 3 hour raid planned it gets pretty boring and with the lockout system screwing guilds who want to chase fights more than in the past it becomes tedious to swap back and forth mid raid.

Just because you have learn to play issues and struggle in forts, doesnt mean its a balance issue so stop acting like it is. You constantly go on and on about it ad nauseam. I see less complaints about forts when we swap sides and push 2 cities this week... 100% success rate btw but whose counting :lol: issue is players in fort and usually weak compo/mentality and skill level. (the people who afk after 1 wipe)
You really think you matter a lot don't you. How do you fit that head through fort doors? People like you make me want to vomit, it's bad enough I have to deal with people like you in life and then to think you would bring an attitude like that to a video game. How sad and fragile you must be to constantly talk yourself up like this.
And who tf are you? LMAO.

Someone who leads arguably one the strongest guilds on destro and order and who cares about the health of the server and community triggers you?

Like him or not, the dude is good for the server and the game.

Why don't you do some good for the server and lead your own super awesome guild and bring health to the server and then switch to the opposite faction for server health? No? Too difficult? Much easier to just sit there and throw stones? Thought so.
I'm not the one telling everyone how super awesome and great I am. What are you a fanboy?

Twick
Posts: 37

Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#174 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:26 pm

zij83 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:06 pm
Twick wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:58 pm
zij83 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:31 pm

You really think you matter a lot don't you. How do you fit that head through fort doors? People like you make me want to vomit, it's bad enough I have to deal with people like you in life and then to think you would bring an attitude like that to a video game. How sad and fragile you must be to constantly talk yourself up like this.
And who tf are you? LMAO.

Someone who leads arguably one the strongest guilds on destro and order and who cares about the health of the server and community triggers you?

Like him or not, the dude is good for the server and the game.

Why don't you do some good for the server and lead your own super awesome guild and bring health to the server and then switch to the opposite faction for server health? No? Too difficult? Much easier to just sit there and throw stones? Thought so.
I'm not the one telling everyone how super awesome and great I am. What are you a fanboy?
I don't even know the guy. But I recognize the work that goes into forming and leading a guild to the top of one side and then making a decision to completely switch and drag your whole guild to the other side.


Come on.

Twick
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#175 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:27 pm

GG in city guys. The changes to chosen and knight should just be straight up reverted.


Keep the fort elevators/orcapults

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JarlBerzirk
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#176 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:27 pm

Elemint wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:05 pm
JarlBerzirk wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:32 pm Have you tested it? Because that other dude has and said its not even that good...
Yeah. And i'm saying it's disgustingly good. Now what?
Thats good. More information. Everyone making claims without actually testing it is rediculous.

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JarlBerzirk
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#177 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:30 pm

Twick wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:27 pm GG in city guys. The changes to chosen and knight should just be straight up reverted.


Keep the fort elevators/orcapults
As someone who claims one side b!@#$ a lot more than the other you're sure doing a lot of that on your own. Just saying. You're not exactly making a good case for youself.

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zij83
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#178 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:30 pm

Twick wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:26 pm
zij83 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:06 pm
Twick wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:58 pm

And who tf are you? LMAO.

Someone who leads arguably one the strongest guilds on destro and order and who cares about the health of the server and community triggers you?

Like him or not, the dude is good for the server and the game.

Why don't you do some good for the server and lead your own super awesome guild and bring health to the server and then switch to the opposite faction for server health? No? Too difficult? Much easier to just sit there and throw stones? Thought so.
I'm not the one telling everyone how super awesome and great I am. What are you a fanboy?
I don't even know the guy. But I recognize the work that goes into forming and leading a guild to the top of one side and then making a decision to completely switch and drag your whole guild to the other side.


Come on.
Maybe if you keep shilling for him he will let you in his super awesome guild of awesome.

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Dekata
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#179 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:33 pm

goodbye order... rip

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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#180 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:33 pm

wpc56 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:20 pm This is the oldest wage cutting trick in the book.
The initial plan was to test it. Due to overwhelming negative feedback, the balance team is reviewing the change as I mentioned earlier before Secrets post: Devs will look into it if they see the need to. And they did. Now if the team does not answer feedbacks, you have something negative to say. If the team answers feedbacks, you have conspiracies ready. They delayed the patch because they were busy, no one has time to think the way you do. No one has the intention to do that, and you should know that from previous patches; If something has to be implemented, it will.
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zij83 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:31 pm You really think you matter a lot don't you.
Twick wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:58 pm And who tf are you? LMAO.
zij83 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:06 pm What are you a fanboy?
Please don't duel here, I know it's a heated discussion in general but do your best to avoid conflicts. Thanks.

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