Unbalanced game ?!

[cabal852]

WL and SW need superbuffs next patch. They are so weak classes rn.

[thorunir]

hahaha thats a good one....

I played this game on life server, and here since T4 wasnt even implemented to the game.
If you really think that order classes are the weaker ones, then please play destro and compare it to each other.
i dont know any order "mirror" class wich is weaker than destro, its the opposite. If you dont beleive it, just switch realm and play the mirror of your main class. Then you will see... its really out of question for everyone who is honest.

Only class that maybe is stonger is the SH compared to the SW, cause he got a pet. But thats it.

The nerfs on order side just leaded to some balance that we never had before in the game, it didnt make order weaker that destro, but stoped some calsses being extremely overpowered like in all those years... and still its order >destro.

[Gladiolix]

Hilarious thread about how players argue how much greener their neighbours grass is People don't seem to realize that, yes, there is a balance issue, but it's not class nor realm balance, it's population balance. RvR dominance is complitely on the hands premades, either stacking on one side or distributing evenly across realms. What determines mostly the outcome of fights: numbers > organization > gear > individual player skill > class balance. To a certain extent outnumbered organized groups can beat bigger blobs, but will eventually fold under superior numbers.

[Everdin]

can we close this thread pls

[Pahakukka]

This one turned to be forum gold .

[Demoriel]

Unbalanced game and Order weaker and weaker? just make me laugh, because nothing could be farther from the truth. As a destro player here of 9+ years, heres the facts. if Destro does well, the game is broken and destro needs nerfs. If order do well, and destro complains? well, destro just needs to learn to play and get more organized. Meanwhile SW can crit for insane amounts of damage. I remember when SW used to hang in the back, trying to kite and run. Now SW are in the front lines, with guard, and dropping targets in seconds. My advice is that Destro has been nerfed to death. Stop calling for more nerfs and complaining and learn to play.

[Farrul]

Unbalanced game and Order weaker and weaker? just make me laugh, because nothing could be farther from the truth. As a destro player here of 9+ years, heres the facts. if Destro does well, the game is broken and destro needs nerfs. If order do well, and destro complains? well, destro just needs to learn to play and get more organized. Meanwhile SW can crit for insane amounts of damage. I remember when SW used to hang in the back, trying to kite and run. Now SW are in the front lines, with guard, and dropping targets in seconds. My advice is that Destro has been nerfed to death. Stop calling for more nerfs and complaining and learn to play.

These SW exaggerations are getting out of hand .

The only thing that has changed is how ranged classes now pretty much ignore disrupt/dodge but that is a universal balance problem with all ranged classes and not a SW specific one, dodge/disrupt strikethrough need a nerf for sure and should go back to how they were before the ability rework. Otherwise SW has an identical toolkit and damage numbers to times when they were considered ''non grata'' ( not so long ago).

As for destro nerfs, well previously due to the Get to da choppa abomination ability you would have an easy time and be the dominant faction in the rvr buildup, then order would turtle in their keeps and farm you back with rampage. Well GTDC is ''gone'' and so is rampage, adapt.

[Farrul]

i think this game never been so unbalanced : Order is weaker and weaker !

Our engi who is totally useless they never get in WB too useless and flat damage without burst.
Mara can grab so easily compare too Wl who need his bugged pet (who die before rich his target)
Our Bright they almost play all dps ae close range they die alltime (they have one less dot then sorc)
Our Wh are not so bad but they can't play full regen cheated like WE
all our tank are less tanky than Destro tank
our heal seems to be not bad since the last patch, but they don't have something like Gork say stop (they still weaker than the shaman)

SC alltime premade in Destro side and/or almost alltime they are 1more

so tell me what you think about thx.

From a small scale roaming perspective , destruction is the known easier faction to play, magus, chosen etc are way better than their order equivalents ( and yes regen WE-_>WH ) and then there is the shaman/goblin squads pissing everybody off with OP shaman M1. One team member said they do care about small scale balance so we will see about future changes in this regard.

In warband play or 6 mans etc they seem balanced, if everyone is playing their correct role ( that is not fun specs, meta or nothing . Problem is order players like to solo a lot even with poor gear and low RR and then get farmed by more organized destro groups running full SoV groups.

Everything else is a question of perception, both factions get farmed in scenarios ( on all tiers) by premades , a universal issue especially for new players that have no idea what they are doing, new destro players think Order is OP and new order players think destro is OP.

However the devs did some poor changes as well to sc recently which has aggravated the situation, sc's are not in a good position at the moment so let's see what happens.