Rune of Battle abuse 3/24/2025

[MetaFR]

Yet not 1 single post about WBs stacking WLs using 1 button.

because it's actually more than 1.
dmg buff
feline grace
speed buff
pounce
echoing roar
there goes your 1 button ; spinning.
then goes more button after, bout are buzy running usually already

see that's more than one button.

[normanis]

increase cd to all aoe channels by 5 sec - its wouldnt nerf damage byt make ppl use ability when needed.
wl really has too many buffs , as assist without pounce u cant follow main assist because of pounce.
about this post , tup really need make piss off all new players from server with phrase - lets find out next exploit. and make server back to 600 max . now its 1300 aprox (yesterday)

[emiliorv]

Should Rune of Battle be able to crit?

It's a skill, see no reason why not?

yes please, and also should place a heal debuff on crit (Rune of Nullification)...why not?

[normanis]

Yeah it's frustrating and not really fairplay, but you can make 1 party or 2 with bane shield / dire shielding chosens, I bet the WH will not live for a long time.

Sure, lets make an exploiters battle...right now we have:
-Bane shield stacking (destro)
-Rune of battle stacking (order)

Another possible:
-Devour essence stacking (destro): dunno if tested, but another fun if applied on a sthealted WE
-Dissipating energies stacking (order): dunno if tested, but another fun if applied on a sthealted WH

Lets go everyone!! Choose your favorite exploit and fight others

*Someone should review the "normal stacking rules".....

rune of battle is stronger than devour essence (24 targets vs 4 ) and uptimer +range. (on papper)

[normanis]

Yeah it's frustrating and not really fairplay, but you can make 1 party or 2 with bane shield / dire shielding chosens, I bet the WH will not live for a long time.

Sure, lets make an exploiters battle...right now we have:
-Bane shield stacking (destro)
-Rune of battle stacking (order)

Another possible:
-Devour essence stacking (destro): dunno if tested, but another fun if applied on a sthealted WE
-Dissipating energies stacking (order): dunno if tested, but another fun if applied on a sthealted WH

Lets go everyone!! Choose your favorite exploit and fight others

*Someone should review the "normal stacking rules".....

Devour E/Dissipating are 5s duration and Devour essence hits 5 people and is not even Spirit dmg anymore. Rune of battle is 15s and Bane Shield requires tactic. Maybe the 24 aoe cap is the problem here? Obviously it is but doesnt matter. If these didnt stack, why would Same Hot/Dot from Different players stack?

Why everything powerful that leads to dying must be destroyed? This attitude is exactly the reason we cant have nice things

24 aoe is problem what was created to solve 1 sided morale pump. becaus eits hard to give such abilities to order. like aoe knock down or aoe pull (normal).

[Sinisterror]

Sure, lets make an exploiters battle...right now we have:
-Bane shield stacking (destro)
-Rune of battle stacking (order)

Another possible:
-Devour essence stacking (destro): dunno if tested, but another fun if applied on a sthealted WE
-Dissipating energies stacking (order): dunno if tested, but another fun if applied on a sthealted WH

Lets go everyone!! Choose your favorite exploit and fight others

*Someone should review the "normal stacking rules".....

Devour E/Dissipating are 5s duration and Devour essence hits 5 people and is not even Spirit dmg anymore. Rune of battle is 15s and Bane Shield requires tactic. Maybe the 24 aoe cap is the problem here? Obviously it is but doesnt matter. If these didnt stack, why would Same Hot/Dot from Different players stack?

Why everything powerful that leads to dying must be destroyed? This attitude is exactly the reason we cant have nice things

24 aoe is problem what was created to solve 1 sided morale pump. becaus eits hard to give such abilities to order. like aoe knock down or aoe pull (normal).

Well truth is RoR had Engi Magus Magnet That pulled 75ft upwards from keep/fortress walls, also only 4 or 5 targets but both sides had access to this but not so surprisingly it was " too powerful " like pouncing on keep walls according to cryers and sadly Staff listened:/ Devour essence being 4 makes little sense with 24 cap imo as well, but 9 ae cap without morale dmg cap is easiest solution with old 1.15s GCD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5Zw4FUPacc

[Florian90210]

I remember BTs "exploited" this thing too long time ago. Nasty stuff.

[normanis]

Devour E/Dissipating are 5s duration and Devour essence hits 5 people and is not even Spirit dmg anymore. Rune of battle is 15s and Bane Shield requires tactic. Maybe the 24 aoe cap is the problem here? Obviously it is but doesnt matter. If these didnt stack, why would Same Hot/Dot from Different players stack?

Why everything powerful that leads to dying must be destroyed? This attitude is exactly the reason we cant have nice things

24 aoe is problem what was created to solve 1 sided morale pump. becaus eits hard to give such abilities to order. like aoe knock down or aoe pull (normal).

Well truth is RoR had Engi Magus Magnet That pulled 75ft upwards from keep/fortress walls, also only 4 or 5 targets but both sides had access to this but not so surprisingly it was " too powerful " like pouncing on keep walls according to cryers and sadly Staff listened:/ Devour essence being 4 makes little sense with 24 cap imo as well, but 9 ae cap without morale dmg cap is easiest solution with old 1.15s GCD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5Zw4FUPacc

need try offc stealth witch with devour essence
p.s i though gms disabled from stealth capture flag or use oil. because of ppl behaviour
i thought anydamage from stealth should unstealth u. byt that why there is ppl who will always find way to find new ''work as intend'' and put it not into bugtracker.

[emiliorv]

need try offc stealth witch with devour essence
p.s i though gms disabled from stealth capture flag or use oil. because of ppl behaviour
i thought anydamage from stealth should unstealth u. byt that why there is ppl who will always find way to find new ''work as intend'' and put it not into bugtracker.

In this case, the damage is tied to the caster (runepriest) => the wh dont make dmg itself.

[Pahakukka]

Should Rune of Battle be able to crit?

It's a skill, see no reason why not?

It should, as should Witchbrew & Leonine Frenzy. Le not critting is kind of crazy since its 13pts Pet skill and pet is the Crit mechanic for Wl. Make Riposte crit again like in Aor + Crit tactics effected riposte as well.

Just commenting the riposte thing. Please no. It was ridoculous already when riposte got dmg buff from choppamechanic. Could kill ppl with only turning your character right way.

I think none of these passive dmg abilities should be super strong, just some ittle additional extra. Otherwise we have builds that play themself, and skillfull gameplay is left unrewarded.

Its not too long ago when you had to actively try not to attack mdps, instead just dot and kite, no matter the class. Example can be seen in the beginning here at 1:56
https://youtu.be/r1VfKJ7sQLc?si=kw6r1L_L-OBJOAF2

This was a bit off topic, just wanted to mention it.