Dual Wield and Greatweapon balance

[Penril]

I think Bretin deserves a Gryphon mount. He obviously knows of a game breaking bug that lets BOs spec like this:

Spoiler:

In the meantime, Chosen can have everything he mentioned at the same time in a tri-spec (well, he needs to choose 3 auras).

As for his other comments:

- Str aura also debuffs enemies. And Str stat steal does not stack with Big Swing.
- Toughness being debuffed by mara is irrelevant when comparing what Chosen and BO bring to the table. Both can buff/debuff it, so i call it a tie. But if you insist on this point, i could also say that BO armor debuff is irrelevant since Mara is way better (and also an ailment).
- Group armor buff is meh since most people use armor pots.
- Same could be said for Da Greenest!. As for resists, Chosen has a 100% uptime buff/debuff aura, while BO is only a buff and needs to be hit and proc it.
- I don't know if Mor Harcore gives immunities in RoR (haven't tested it here). If it does, then you are just giving away free immunities to a target that would be better off being punted by a BG or Chosen.
- WAAAGH corp debuff is nice for WB WE and bomb sorcs (some of their AoE skills do corp). Chosen can debuff both corp and spirit though, so bomb sorcs would benefit more from them than from BO.

Agreed on everything else you mentioned.

I also agree with dropping this for now. BO and Chosen have amazing synergy anyway.

edit: the image obviously considers Can't Hit me as Down you go, since their positions were swapped.

[Bretin]

I think Bretin deserves a Gryphon mount.

same can be said for you, nice aggro management m8.

[Penril]

I think Bretin deserves a Gryphon mount.

same can be said for you, nice aggro management m8.

Obviously i consider you a World boss.

[Bretin]

I think Bretin deserves a Gryphon mount.

same can be said for you, nice aggro management m8.

Obviously i consider you a World boss.

it was mursi not me, how was the loot?

[Penril]

it was mursi not me, how was the loot?

He dropped a Magus glyph.

As for Clobber, that probably is from when i was trying out morale drain. That, or i simply misclicked like an idiot

edit: by misclick i obviously meant "pushed the wrong button in my Logitech mouse". Just in case your next post is "so you click brah?"

[Druin]

Aaaand back on topic nubs.

[Penril]

Ok Druin. But you have to admit this was a pretty friendly banter. No "snake pits" here.

Sorry for derailing, if only for a couple minutes.

[Bretin]

no moral drain, just checked it again :p

end of the derailed train chuuchuuu

[Druin]

I noticed it's getting better. Guess staying on topic is just another l2p issue. : >

[Genisaurus]

So it seems pretty clear to me that parry strikethrough isn't going to pass any time soon. Not only because it's contentious enough to be shelved only a few pages into a 20+ page thread, but also because the offensive bonus affects different classes to different degrees and that needs to be given more consideration.