[Review] [KOTBS] Glory Tree

[forsa]

It can be countered easily - simply punt the knight away. Especially BG - full hate punt throws you waaay further than the aura reach.

Another point is that RP first needs to crit heal (definitely not 100% uptime), granting a BLESSING that can be shattered on target, so with 1 skill you can break this combo.

Tl;dr - it can be countered l2p & gitgud

Also it is attached to an aura useless in party, esp with RP.
So you trade 1 tactic and 1 aura on top + 8 pts (if you are not going for HF) for +15% heal. Tbh that does not sound fair to me and i find DT/EA much better.
FM is for those poor Glory guardbots who just get punted away all the time.

What troubles me most is that people voicing for nerf are all known devote destro, basically entire thread is whine of how op that ability on other side. Shame.

[taccr]

Main issue with FM on RoR ist that is works full aura range (100f).
Back on live it was only applying the healing buff within (30f - guard range). It was still very strong back then but here it is broken.

Already made a bug report a very long time ago but since it's hard to provide proof it was being ignored.

[Tesq]

@forsa

Punt is a general solution for any tank that piss you and even a low skilly one, tough idk if the range of the tactic is the one of the aura then its100 feet so punt wont work...

That is bias....rp/zeal can keep.up on all party the buff 90% of the time require to crit is not a diffuculty especially with more and more crit coming from gear also especially when zeal/rp also have link their defense to chance to crit for a hot which do all by himself; plus that is even wrong as the heal buff apply later you will firsr shatter the hot while you wont even touch the heal buff

Plus since the hot can refresh the effect chances are high that even aftee cleansing the hot the buff component it has just being refreshed and still have 10 sec of duration.....

You are bias also on kobs, that aura is not useless
1- against mixed comp
2- kobs healing aura regen ap aswell.while chosen one dont. Wich make it totally more appealling because is a out of tactic ap regen for whole group....
So the picture is very different, ppl dont play dumb/unconsciusly

[dansari]

Blessing of Grungni isn't triggered on hots, only direct healing

[Britainnicus]

Spoiler:

So thinly veiled nerf requests/whines presented as "balance proposals" are acceptable now? When I first read this I thought for sure it would get locked.

User warned for this post.

[Tesq]

Blessing of Grungni isn't triggered on hots, only direct healing

Fine confused with zealot,

Still never heard of flash heal ? Cuz your 3 direct heals are 1 hot tick of a zealot. Ppl should stop pretending that is hard to keep up, it "isn't it" , you just have to press 1 dam button and spam heals.

Edit: because wrong quote

[forsa]

Spoiler:

@forsa

Punt is a general solution for any tank that piss you and even a low skilly one, tough idk if the range of the tactic is the one of the aura then its100 feet so punt wont work...

You can punt over the wall/from the bridge/ledge/height difference/whatever. Just use your head and place yourself accordingly. Also BG punt overcomes this simply punting you further than 100ft.
So punt works.

That is bias....rp/zeal can keep.up on all party the buff 90% of the time require to crit is not a diffuculty especially with more and more crit coming from gear also especially when zeal/rp also have link their defense to chance to crit for a hot which do all by himself; plus that is even wrong as the heal buff apply later you will firsr shatter the hot while you wont even touch the heal buff

Wut?? Shatter it again. You have Mara for mass cleanse. Is this argument for you? Really? Also "bias" ?

Plus since the hot can refresh the effect chances are high that even aftee cleansing the hot the buff component it has just being refreshed and still have 10 sec of duration.....

Chances are the that there is no RP in party, or he is DD , or even there are NO HEALERS AT ALL. Welcome to order side. Oh wait, you dont play order.

You are bias also on kobs, that aura is not useless

you love that word "bias", dont ya? ill call you that way from now on

1- against mixed comp
2- kobs healing aura regen ap aswell.while chosen one dont. Wich make it totally more appealling because is a out of tactic ap regen for whole group....
So the picture is very different, ppl dont play dumb/unconsciusly

1 - what is that supposed to mean? you can outheal WE damage with this aura? Ignore AP starving from BG?
2.a - Rule # 3. No reciprocal adjustments, aka: Don't appeal to your mirror.

2.b - Surprise surprise! Both have Aura AP regen for whole group, and Kotbs dont have tact for group ap regen!

Are you drunk? Seriously, your arguments sound like " u kno nuffin, ima rite!11"

Again - what troubles me most is that people voicing for nerf are all known devote destro ( Bias is a prime example) basically entire thread is whine of how op that ability/tact on other side.
Shame.

So many things wrong with this post. Read the BDF rules.

[tionblack]

Mighty Soul should effect entire attacks of the KOBS else it is pretty useless at current state.Given KOBS base damage is really low the sacrifice made by going offensive kobs rewards so little in the name of the dps provided.(I am aware its support class please dont troll my post )

Focused mending % 15 healing increase should be effecting people when you actually start gaining HP/AP benefits from aura aka the next 3 seconds after you defending against an attack.


I have been trying every spec on kobs so far the offspec damage is way too meh considering low base damage.Was same with choosen but with spirit damage rework now it is really satisfying so a change on MYRMIDIA'S FURY channeling ability would be so nice also.Either via mighty soul making it ELEMENTAL or itself being elemental.

[dansari]

Honestly that sounds completely fine: make it so that it's turned "on" for 3 seconds after defending an attack, just like the aura, although this may warrant extending it to 5s to make it worth it.

[Tesq]

That will change basically nothing when you are focus or you take dmg the aura will proc with any defense. After last avoidance changes it also just need a dot, you dodge/ disrupt every 3-4 sec and is always active. Hard be the otherway, if you get dot/attack it will inevitabily proc if not every 3 sec ...every 4 sec max. Since you only need the heal buff while being attacked this will change nothing and will just waste server memory activating and deactivating the proc.