The kobs has been nerfed and nerfed and nerfed (prolly couple more) on this server. While I agree with many of them, before even thinking about specific abilities, does the kobs need more nerfs? In general I find balancing with this balance proposals weird to say the least. There is so much focus on specific abilities and tactics, while you have to first take a look at the bigger picture. That is 1) is Kobs balanced with SM/IB? and 2) is order balanced versus destro? Then if the answer is no to the first, you have to determine if something needs to be buffed or nerfed. With Kobs being nerfed so many times, maybe it is time to look to buff the other classes if/where needed. If the answer is no to the second, possible all tanks need buffs/nerfs.
So is order currently imbalanced versus destruction and do the tanks play a major role in this? From smaller scale point of view I would say no. Possibly different for warband scale, but I will let those experts discuss that.
Then is Kobs stronger than SM/IB? Comparison with SM is hard as that class relies more on damage than on utility. IB however should bring a lot of utility and here I think the Kobs overpowers the IB. Does that mean Kobs should be nerfed even more or IB should get some buffs? I'm more for the latter which is why I'm against this proposal.
Some other points:
rmpl wrote:Focused Mending is a very powerful zero effort tactic
Tactics are passive and by definition pretty much zero effort.
rmpl wrote:It requires no interaction except activating the aura
Well that is part of the mechanic of Kobs, I dont see how that is an argument to nerf anything. Balance is always done at top level play, where how hard something is to execute hardly matters.
rmpl wrote:it's fairly low in the tree so you don't have to sacrifice anything since you'll be picking it up on your way to Heaven's Fury.
This is really not true, you always have to sacrifice something. If you want to pick this tactic and the stagger, you will (with 2h build) not be able to pick up the knockdown.
Penril wrote:
As for this thread, I just want to say I don't understand why Chosen's Embrace the Winds (12 points) has the same value (being self-only) as Focused Mending (8 points). That alone makes me think FM should be 10%, at most, regardless of its position in the tree.
That argument is totally invalid based on your own rules:
Azarael wrote:3. No reciprocal adjustments, aka: Don't appeal to your mirror.