DoK/WP with book/chalice...

[dontcomplainx]

Sorry dood, dont get me wrong i'm just using some vids to prove that you are wrong, 2 vids from the same group, just to prove how wrong you are, and i proved, " Cloth healers would have died in 3 seconds or less under those circumstances " in the end of the day it all comes down to L2P.

You didn't prove ****. You are comparing an unguarded WP with all kinds of debuffs on him and no one helping him with a guarded RP that has support from 2 tanks and another healer.

Dood.

Sorry but if the first group do not change guard to their healer under focus fire its a L2P, that's why he died in 5 seconds.

[Penril]

Sorry but if the first group do not change guard to their healer under focus fire its a L2P, that's why he died in 5 seconds.

Ok, i can agree with that. L2P issue on the WP's tanks and DPS for not helping him.

If you want to make a good comparison, i suggest checking Gankbus video and see what happens when they focus the WP, and when they focus the RP. I admit though that catching the RP was a pain in the ass; a good cloth kiter is indeed very powerful. And being good at kiting is indeed a l2p issue.

[dontcomplainx]

Sorry but if the first group do not change guard to their healer under focus fire its a L2P, that's why he died in 5 seconds.

Ok, i can agree with that. L2P issue on the WP's tanks and DPS for not helping him.

If you want to make a good comparison, i suggest checking Gankbus video and see what happens when they focus the WP, and when they focus the RP. I admit though that catching the RP was a pain in the ass; a good cloth kiter is indeed very powerful. And being good at kiting is indeed a l2p issue.

np, and dont get me wrong i dont want to sound rude, its like you said Cloth healers are very power on kite, and indeed they are powerfull when played properly, and about that Wp i would say if Gankbus got a BG on their group they could bring the Wp down.

[zanthorn]

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All the imagery would suggest they where to fight.

[DefinitelyNotWingz]

Sorry but if the first group do not change guard to their healer under focus fire its a L2P, that's why he died in 5 seconds.

Ok, i can agree with that. L2P issue on the WP's tanks and DPS for not helping him.

If you want to make a good comparison, i suggest checking Gankbus video and see what happens when they focus the WP, and when they focus the RP. I admit though that catching the RP was a pain in the ass; a good cloth kiter is indeed very powerful. And being good at kiting is indeed a l2p issue.

np, and dont get me wrong i dont want to sound rude, its like you said Cloth healers are very power on kite, and indeed they are powerfull when played properly, and about that Wp i would say if Gankbus got a BG on their group they could bring the Wp down.

A BG wouldve probably been the better choice. Next time maybe.

@Penril: You dont see why we had to go for the RP first, it was mentioned in this thread already and both were of similar tankiness. It is exactly the reason why 2wps < wp/rp and evidence why wp shouldnt be nerfed. Please dont take gankbus videos as alleged evidence to ruin the game, thanks.

[Penril]

I didn't bring your videos here, dontcomplainx did. He was comparing an unguarded, unsupported WP to a good kiting RP with support from 5 good players. I simply pointed out the mistake of doing such comparisons.

And i have always thought WP/RP > 2 WP, same as i think Zeal/Dok > 2 Doks. Thanks.

[Nameless]

the thing is dok/wp is mandatory which we cannot say for other backline healers. The point that 2 dok/wps are not the best setup is irrelevant. After all 2 dok/wp being not best possible it is still decent while 2 of a same backline healers is just bad.

something should be done, buff backline heaelrs to dok/wp level or bring down dok/wp to backline healers level but some balance should be done

[TenTonHammer]

yes the fact of the matter is that just like kotbs and chosen running atleast 1 wp/dok is mandatory and that is not right there should not be a "mandatory" classes

[DefinitelyNotWingz]

Please dont take gankbus videos as alleged evidence to ruin the game, thanks.

I didn't bring your videos here, dontcomplainx did.

If you want to make a good comparison, i suggest checking Gankbus video and see what happens when they focus the WP, and when they focus the RP. I admit though that catching the RP was a pain in the ass; a good cloth kiter is indeed very powerful. And being good at kiting is indeed a l2p issue.

It seems like you think wp is tankier, which is wrong (speaking about the 6on6). You also suggest checking the video, which appears to me as if you would treat the video as your evidence why wp seems tankier to you. AM/RP wouldve been just as viable btw
Just to clarify.

[Shadowgurke]

@Penril: You dont see why we had to go for the RP first, i

So it is Wingz after all!