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[ragafury]

had 2 minor lags which were done after 2 and perhabs 10 seconds. (@Highpass pairing)
(ISP: German Telekom 50 down/10 up. average ping 9 - 20ms on most games (Dota2, CS:GO, Doom (4) DM) I play, hardware I5, 16GB ram, geforce 1060OC)

considering there were 200 to 3xx ppl in the zone it really went smooth.

I had major concerns about the patch (especially in terms of performance) but it's far better implemented that I could've dreamed off. as far as I can tell with my BG R20 / RR14 I don't feel like overbolster'd nor useless. it's like somewhere inbetween.

good work! good stuff!

on top of all that it's really refreshing to play this smaller maps and not ride for hours in circles to find a fight.
feels more like team vs team deathmatch which I personally like.

nice sideeffect of not being forced to debolster:
BO doesn't play like blurgh anymore in lower tiers.

[dansari]

I could see an instance where T3 gold bags get Anni gear. Really it's just going to take some hours in the bag system to get something viable out there. Current mid-tier bags are geared for 16-31, and that's a lot of manual work to swap items out.

Definitely not out of the question, just want to get the campaign flowing well first and past the big bugs.

Sounds great! And absolutely understand.. the goal is to get the campaign working, then worry about rewards.

[Jollyjoker]

Not fun ... glad I didnt tell any of my friends about this.

yeah, how dare they repopulate empty t2 t3 lakes and bring variety to the decade old t4 campaign, absolutely horrific

First of all, I do not see the fascination with middle tiers. Power level through and get to t4, period. That is the 1st objective. Middle tiers have nothing of value, nothing. Boring stale maps, gear that is obsolete 5 career levels after you get it, and RvR lakes that are NOT designed for 5 or 6 or 8 wb's to fight through. So to put it bluntly, screw tiers 2 and 3. they are worthless.

As for t4, the only reason it is stale is because the devs screwed it all up. Sorry, but that is my opinion. (And of many others who pm me in game to say thank you for all I say, because they agree).
How you ask? Simple ...
Devs took away
1- multiple zones being open allowing for factions to operate in multiple zones, which allows for multiple zone battles. Yes Yes, i know the common complaint; "But people take empty zones".
WHO CARES? Aside from about half a dozen people complaining that they missed a lock tick, no one else complained. Because multiple zones allow for the outnumbered side to stop the zergy side from locking everything up. And this allowed people that dont like fighting zergs, a chance to play.
So in short, all the people who hate zergs (from both sides of it) got chased away from the game.

Then ...

2- They created a system where boredom waiting for a lock, where the most hated part of Live (RESOURCES) are back into play. A system that drove away even more people.

So, in short ... Devs tried a new RvR system. (KUDOS for trying) It doesnt work. So instead of admitting they screwed up and revert to the RvR system we had on live (version patch 1.3 was best), what do they do?

3- Create a reward system for gear and RR Buff pots, but scatter it into the lower tiers, in an attempt to increase pop there. BUT... to do that, they lost pop in t4.

So, do they admit their idea doesnt work, and revert? NOPE...

They now create a system where EVERYONE has to play in the lower tiers ...????

Bring back the 1.3 patch RvR system. Stop wasting months of coding time trying to RE-Invent the game and get dungeons out. Trust me... you get dungeons and their gear out and people will come back. Especially Bastion Stair, LoTD and ToVL.

Stop trying to make something new, and bring back what people loved about the game to begin with. That is how you will bring players back. Not gimmicks like this DOOM event!

This, a million times this! You just took the words right out of my mouth and I am glad there are still people speaking their mind without being scared of getting flamed or banned. This annoying obsession with mid tiers and forcing people to debolster instead of allowing for poverleveling or rats to get to t4. t4 is where the game and fun begins and it was always that way, period. Alot of our friends from live and many former players that might be interested in returning are discouraged with the annoyingly long time it takes to get to 40 at this point. And instead rats are taken out, poverleveling is taken out. Then you think that blobbing all of the game into one small zone makes it somehow more entertaining and helps attract more players perhaps, what to say... Like Mordredd said people are waiting for major changes like new gear, dungeons, city sieges,etc and some are simply not interested because this resembles the original WAR we all loved less and less with every patch. Feel free to flame me I know that a lot of people feel the same way. I've played WAR since the beginning and have been in RoR since the beginning and really am amazed at the progress you've been able to make from nothing but this has been on my mind for quite some time.

[Hargrim]

This, a million times this! You just took the words right out of my mouth and I am glad there are still people speaking their mind without being scared of getting flamed or banned. This annoying obsession with mid tiers and forcing people to debolster instead of allowing for poverleveling or rats to get to t4. t4 is where the game and fun begins and it was always that way, period. Alot of our friends from live and many former players that might be interested in returning are discouraged with the annoyingly long time it takes to get to 40 at this point. And instead rats are taken out, poverleveling is taken out. Then you think that blobbing all of the game into one small zone makes it somehow more entertaining and helps attract more players perhaps, what to say... Like Mordredd said people are waiting for major changes like new gear, dungeons, city sieges,etc and some are simply not interested because this resembles the original WAR we all loved less and less with every patch. Feel free to flame me I know that a lot of people feel the same way. I've played WAR since the beginning and have been in RoR since the beginning and really am amazed at the progress you've been able to make from nothing but this has been on my mind for quite some time.

Everyone can speak what they want, as long as it is not against the rules. If there is any merit in what they say is something entirely different.

Is there any forced debolstering now? Or was in the past? Get your facts straight please. Carrot is carrot, not stick.

Good that you mentioned gear as a major thing people wait for, first I know what kind of player you are and second I have good news - team released like 6 new sets this year.

The rest doesn't need any comment .

[HtGeist]

Hoping this is the place to leave feedback about this cluster rvr thingymanjingy.
I have tried it 2 days now on 4 diffrent classes,healer/tank/rdps/mdps...only found small joy as rdps...but bottomline,i dont like it,please bring back the old.
In addiction to being a zergfest its also preventing me from doing my finishing quest in the skaven line,collect kills in highpass etc,so utterly and totally big load of manure that this thing came along. for me and my mostly solo playing.

[Collateral]

Hoping this is the place to leave feedback about this cluster rvr thingymanjingy.
I have tried it 2 days now on 4 diffrent classes,healer/tank/rdps/mdps...only found small joy as rdps...but bottomline,i dont like it,please bring back the old.
In addiction to being a zergfest its also preventing me from doing my finishing quest in the skaven line,collect kills in highpass etc,so utterly and totally big load of manure that this thing came along. for me and my mostly solo playing.

Stop playing the game. Cya.

[Glorian]

Stop you from complete kill quests? In a warband you will have it in 30secs full.

... ah I see.

[nebelwerfer]

Today I was exploring troll country the way you only do when you spend 3 hours in there doing RvR. After playing it yesterday twice I thought "meh, again?.." Since i was stoked on dwarf after people called for dwarf t2 when the t4 elf zones locked today, but after a small while I found it was really enjoyable. Saw a lot of things I haven't seen before, met new people and crushed my foes in strange new places. I like this. I think it's a great change. Only thing I would argue for is giving lvl 40 loot in any zonelock regardless of tier, because you struggle for it just as much as placing top contribution locking a t4 zone.
tldr; I love the new old pairings but want better loot, and great job team!!

PS: Enjoy that whiskey wargrimnir

[mikke]

Hoping this is the place to leave feedback about this cluster rvr thingymanjingy.
I have tried it 2 days now on 4 diffrent classes,healer/tank/rdps/mdps...only found small joy as rdps...but bottomline,i dont like it,please bring back the old.
In addiction to being a zergfest its also preventing me from doing my finishing quest in the skaven line,collect kills in highpass etc,so utterly and totally big load of manure that this thing came along. for me and my mostly solo playing.

+1

Unfortunately most people here thinks that soloing is ugly and happiness is in being a part of crowd..

[Hargrim]

+1

Unfortunately most people here thinks that soloing is ugly and happiness is in being a part of crowd..

This is not exactly good game to play solo, because, you know, you need other players to kill. Cattering to solo players impact long term population.