Uzgul Bakraz - Dwarf Guild

[Kov]

And yes, Karak Norn is a Karak with no official King so I was free to create something.

I fear you are mistaken. Karak Norn is ruled by King Brokk Ironpick the Grim and Queen Thurma of the Grintzagaz clan.
(source: Dwarfs: Stone and Steel. Page 36, Hogshead Publishing and Games Workshop, September 2002)

Ah, yes. It says him and his queen rules it. It does not say when though and I expect that the rulebook means that the King is the one who is currently ruling it (Before AoS). This has no conflict with the lore DeadPxxl has written. Is your only complaint that there is a conflicting ruler stated or is there more to your complaint which would be wrong unless you somehow mistaken there to be two kings that ruled at the same time? Do you not like the idea of anyone other than GW writing lore for the universe? Seems that way.

Unless dwarf kings are immortal I can't possibly believe that you would think that because if that is true how can Snorri Whitebeard rule if there is Gotrek Starbreaker or Morgrim Blackbeared or Skorri Morgrimson or Logan Proudbeard or Kurgan ironbeard or Thorgrim Grudgebearer are ruling it?

There is a line of kings which isn't always due to their heritage which would allow a king to pass down his right to rule to his son, which doesn't always happen. Sometimes a different clan takes up the crown and rules as king of the Karak. Making a line of different clans rule as a highking. Which is what is happening to Karak Norn. Different Kings of different times with different clans.

you completely ignore the "official" lore on many places. I know that this is a fantasy game, and you should be free to create your own stories.

It seems you didn't see that the Karak did fall. This happens a lot, a Karak falling, the thing is that when someone reclaims the Karak the king is usually dead which is what happened to the character Uthamir Bloodfist. Being that the story is unfinished there are only a few things that NEED to be completed.

1. Karak Norn must fall to greenskin and Skaven.
2. Karak Norn must be reclaimed through the use of airships.
3. Karak Norn must have a King named Brokk Ironpick and a Queen named Thurma of the Grintzagaz clan.

Only event 1 has been completed. You are jumping the gun when saying that the lore is wrong when king Uthamir was king. when it is obvious that Uthamir is not the current king which is what the rule book was implying.

it just happens that there are some and as a roleplayer I found them...strange.

Quite strange indeed my friend when people think an unfinished work will be left as is. Not all work can be perfect like Age of Sigmar. (Obvious Joke)

I think its best to not delve deeper into this, i wish you luck for your guild and i will refrain from commenting any more or roleplay with you. The ancestors watch over you.

I don't expect you to reply to this but I do expect you to see it. If I was rude in any way please tell me and I will edit it. If you find anything wrong with what I wrote please post or send me a PM. Do not hesitate on anything and please...

The ancestors watch over you.

UZGUL BAKRAZ

[Grimbjorn]

Oi Garod) That's right ) Mjolgrim-Slayer, Grimgnir-RP & Bjornhild- IB

[Deadpxxl]

Oi Garod) That's right ) Mjolgrim-Slayer, Grimgnir-RP & Bjornhild- IB

Nice ! Fortunately, server will be up very soon and we'll recreate the guild ! Uzgul Bakraz !

[Kov]

Been working on something. I was wanting to do a 40s-60s style propaganda art for the guild and so I made this. It's inspired by what the 3rd Bitterstone Thunderers have and because they have something, why not us too?

Hopefully you guys like it I worked a few hours on it and would like to hear what you guys think.

The Poster:

Spoiler:

The picture was made using another picture I found on the internet and I used it for the dwarf.

Spoiler:

I put it in here because I wanted to make sure you guys know I'm not stealing art. That is not my goal when I was making this, I only wanted to build upon something good to make something special for my guild and create something that could be enjoyed. What I made is a parody of the original image. This art was from the Age of reckoning page and was concept art for the very game we are playing. I thought it would be fine to use and in no way do I insult the original artist.

[raz98]

Brakhan Anvilrage, reporting in! I pledge my axe, and my doom to the cause of Uzgul Bakraz!

[Arobain]

i'm gonna be honest, there are too many all dwarf guilds at the moment, there are currently 3, after you create yours, and unless you provide something that works differently than the other 2, the guild wont be at its full potential. it will have a hard time to grow and will split the dwarves between 3 guilds that work the same. most players will naturally go to the biggest one, because its more well known and simply has more players,

currently both of the other dwarf guilds focus on RvR and roleplay, to grow to your best potential and to not seem like a copy of the other 2, you should be approaching these same game styles differently, or do different game styles, neither guild does consistant hardcore action roleplaying, so thats an option, neither focus on pve, 1 focuses on formation rvr, 1 doesnt

although i have refrained from commenting until now, i just dont want you guys to be let down if not as many members join as you would hope, theres just already a huge and awesome dwarf guild. if you still choose to go down the path of the other 2 dwarf guilds ( rvr and roleplay focus ) try to put a completely new twist on it, that the other 2 guilds dont already provide, if not, then i wish you good luck. have a goodnight, i'm heading to bed

[Kov]

i'm gonna be honest

I'll stop you right there. Mr. Arobain, if the first time you guys tried bothering us wasn't enough you had to go and do it again. Good on you. Make your guild look bad and Insecure with this constant bickering and backlash to other guilds within the community only makes the one you represent look even worse.

there are too many all dwarf guilds at the moment

And you say there is only Two other dwarf guilds. That's cool. With the other dwarf guilds how many dwarfs go to other guilds? What is your point here?

the guild wont be at its full potential.

Ahhhhh, I see, so you're afraid YOUR guild will not be at it's 'full potential'. Good to know.

split the dwarves between 3 guilds that work the same. most players will naturally go to the biggest one, because its more well known and simply has more players... currently both of the other dwarf guilds focus on RvR and roleplay....

This is you repeating the same thing, only that you want to make sure that if we make our guild that we know you will always be supreme leaders. Give me a break, you understand that there are multiple guilds within Order right? Many of them are Roleplay & RvR focused. If there was a problem with all that then why not just have ONE guild for each faction.

Why because it doesn't make sense. Stop trying to fear monger. It doesn't work and you're making yourself look bad.

to grow to your best potential and to not seem like a copy of the other 2, you should be approaching these same game styles differently, or do different game styles, neither guild does consistant hardcore action roleplaying, so thats an option, neither focus on pve, 1 focuses on formation rvr, 1 doesnt

Again, trying to hint that you have a superior guild whilst trying to bring down our own. Sad.

Of course, we accept the extra information on how to improve. Always need constructive responses on how to improve, though you still try to imply you have a better guild than the other 'That which has no name' dwarf guild.

although i have refrained from commenting until now,

Could it be connected to the last time you guys tried?

i just dont want you guys to be let down if not as many members join as you would hope, theres just already a huge and awesome dwarf guild. if you still choose to go down the path of the other 2 dwarf guilds ( rvr and roleplay focus ) try to put a completely new twist on it, that the other 2 guilds dont already provide,

You don't want competition. Sorry about that mate. Thanks for the actually helpful tips as in trying to not sound like you're boasting about your own guild.

But in all seriousness, thanks for the information about nothing.

if not, then i wish you good luck. have a goodnight, i'm heading to bed

Fear is fun. Also you try to close the conversation by saying goodnight as if to say there will not be any way to counter it.


Hope you understand which parts was banter and which was serious. If not reply or message me that I was insulting in any way or rude in any way please tell me and I will edit this post. If anyone has a problem with this post PM me or reply to this post. Perferably PM me so we do not fill up the thread with constant bickering.

[Kov]

For those who are waiting for the guild to be up,

Do not worry, it will be up Deadpxxl is on vacation right now and isn't near somewhere to update/create the guild. As soon as he comes back he will make the guild.

Thank you all for your patience as we are here to help.

[Asherdoom]

any news yet? im quite interested (engineer here)

[Kov]

any news yet?

As of now, there is no ETA when Deadpxxl will return.

I'm going in vacation for 10 days, I won't be able to play and I don't know if the server will be up while I'm in vacation. But in case it happen, don't worry, when I'm back we'll make the guild.

That was on July 23rd and only recently has the server been up so I expect him to come back soon.