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Re: Dev Diary - February 2017

Post#41 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:13 pm

bloodi wrote:The renown is whatever but i still cant find a good reason why putting a complete set of gear in purple bags is ever a good idea.

Seriously, specially when there will be no tokens for it whatsoever, genesis was already bad, a complete set of gear locked behind some rng bullshit is real bad.

There is no sure way to get it besides grind forever and get lucky, why are we still doing this? What is the benefit of such a system?
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Re: Dev Diary - February 2017

Post#42 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:17 pm

Lheana wrote:Yes but this extreme change of mind is a little destabilizing.
And don't know if you talk about me with your second sentence, but if you do, I don't understand :ugeek:
There was no extreme change of mind

(1) They "could" implement RR100 - which means from a technical perspective it's possible, they didn't say "would", "may", "might" or "are likely to do"
(2) All signals given were that a RR wipe was highly likely, most of us excepted that it was only a question if it was going to happen sooner or later and to what extent.

The difference between (1) and (2) are not a change of mind, they were just what you read into (1) and choose to ignore from (2).
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Re: Dev Diary - February 2017

Post#43 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:19 pm

Marsares wrote:
sotora wrote:
Marsares wrote:
There's been plenty of discussions about renown wipes and although there was never a clear black and white answer given, if you read between the lines
Bolded part is the problem.
Alpha Server is pretty clear-cut though. Expect the unexpected, it's what you've signed up for, although in this instance a RR wipe wasn't unexpected at all for those who paid a miniscule bit of intention. You don't have to have everything spoon-fed in order to come up with obvious conclusions.
Dev diary say that there were 2 options and 1 was chosen months ago. Clearly a thought process behind it. Presenting decision after it was made is not spoon feeding - it is simply being honest.

It is nothing big to ask for.

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Re: Dev Diary - February 2017

Post#44 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:20 pm

Torquemadra wrote:Who said there is a complete set of gear in purple bags? Because there isnt.
Since it mentions "There will also be new jewelry/accesories" while mentioning gear and weapons, i can only assume there is armor, since well, there isnt anything besides armor/jewelry/weapons that may be gear.

And the point still stands, why you insist on locking gear behind extreme rng? What is the purpose of it? And dont tell me because it makes it hard to get because you can make it hard to get without it being obtainable only due to rng.
wargrimnir wrote:We do it for the salt. Specifically because it annoys you.
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Re: Dev Diary - February 2017

Post#45 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:20 pm

sotora wrote:Completly awful regarding renown wipe.


Keeping cap at RR80 and then wiping it cause new set comes is absolutely awful system. Truly worst I have ever seen in my entire gaming experience through years.

Why was cap increased to RR80 then in first place? Why didnt you set cap at RR50 or RR55 then?
this is RoR and RoR is in Alpha ,everyone shuold know one day it will come .
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Re: Dev Diary - February 2017

Post#46 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:26 pm

Marsares wrote:
Lheana wrote:Yes but this extreme change of mind is a little destabilizing.
And don't know if you talk about me with your second sentence, but if you do, I don't understand :ugeek:
There was no extreme change of mind

(1) They "could" implement RR100 - which means from a technical perspective it's possible, they didn't say "would", "may", "might" or "are likely to do"
(2) All signals given were that a RR wipe was highly likely, most of us excepted that it was only a question if it was going to happen sooner or later and to what extent.

The difference between (1) and (2) are not a change of mind, they were just what you read into (1) and choose to ignore from (2).
You are playing on words, and as the post is in french, the 'could' is just a traduction. Yalishka said the rr 100 is a good idea, to avoid to have a too easy end game, it's an idea that ror staff likes, and considers seriously.
About wipe, as Wargimnir said on his post : staff said multiple times there would not be wipe. And I am not particularly against the wipe, but against the rr50 cap.
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Re: Dev Diary - February 2017

Post#47 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:29 pm

Does the return of the old Renown Mastery mean that QE, CW & RD are going out of the game?

**** looks interesting! Thanks for the update

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Re: Dev Diary - February 2017

Post#48 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:30 pm

I can't read anything about a planned RR50 cap. It was discussed months ago internally.
Back when T4 released there was some discussion about what we should do in regards to level caps, considering we would not be releasing any other armor sets for quite a while. RR50 cap was one strong consideration, and having a low rate of renown uncapped was the other option that we went along with.

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Re: Dev Diary - February 2017

Post#49 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:32 pm

Lheana wrote:
Marsares wrote:
Lheana wrote:Yes but this extreme change of mind is a little destabilizing.
And don't know if you talk about me with your second sentence, but if you do, I don't understand :ugeek:
There was no extreme change of mind

(1) They "could" implement RR100 - which means from a technical perspective it's possible, they didn't say "would", "may", "might" or "are likely to do"
(2) All signals given were that a RR wipe was highly likely, most of us excepted that it was only a question if it was going to happen sooner or later and to what extent.

The difference between (1) and (2) are not a change of mind, they were just what you read into (1) and choose to ignore from (2).
You are playing on words, and as the post is in french, the 'could' is just a traduction. Yalishka said the rr 100 is a good idea, to avoid to have a too easy end game, it's an idea that ror staff likes, and considers seriously.
About wipe, as Wargimnir said on his post : staff said multiple times there would not be wipe. And I am not particularly against the wipe, but against the rr50 cap.

We’ve got a bunch of cool stuff coming soon*. So here’s the bad news. You know how we’ve been repeating that no wipes are planned currently? We have moved beyond that current position. Wipes are planned, ~Two Weeks™. RoR meme incoming.
It's not exactly forcing you to read between the lines.

When people asked over the past several months, the answer was "No, we're not planning on a wipe."

That's changed, and it's not even a real wipe, just a rollback so we can address the renown system. The initial implementation was slapped into place while we worked on all the other things.

Oh, and if I wasn't clear, we're not imposing a RR50 cap. That was one of the options we could have done months ago.
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Re: Dev Diary - February 2017

Post#50 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:34 pm

Teefz wrote:Does the return of the old Renown Mastery mean that QE, CW & RD are going out of the game?

**** looks interesting! Thanks for the update
I don't think that's the intent, and with client control we would be able to shuffle around what shows up on the list. If anything they might be harder to get more than one renown ability at a time. Will know more about what's possible when we get closer.
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