Only a few ideas because iam a casual player

[peterthepan3]

BiS gears are grind in every MMO.
my advice, enjoy grind.
at least it's not repeating PvE.
for 1hour casual players, hone your skills in SC until rotate skills with closed eye.
and carry pug SC alone.
only then you are ready for 1hour orvr and profit.
solo 1hour orvr is best difficulty in this game IMO.

Not really, just pick an easy solo class and pick your fights well.

[TenTonHammer]

This isn't about Anni or Merc its about the seals you made it about Anni and you continue to talk about when that wasn't even the main topic of the post.

Oh ok mate? I have my input on first page re OT, so don't come at me with that xd

2000 sc emblems is a grind too, but maybe fair per piece. Would give much needed life to sc, people would group, yadda yadda insert monotonous peter3 stuff.

The ones comming to this server ARE whether your Dankel or anyone else likes it or not, causal players


Casual players with nostalgia for a game shut down ages ago or casuals who never got to play the game due to P2P


They don't really care about grouping up or playing in 6mans


Their here to have fun and have no desire to play like this is some hardcore Korean moba because their are not obligated to cause their don't have monthly subs


And in this day and age with a saturated game market if they don't get that fun here they can simply go some where else


So telling causal players not to play is a good way to stunt the growth of this server

[trebla]

I don't appreciate elitist jerks bashing the casual community because in all honesty they are needed more than these try hards. If your offended than that's you!

The community needs to grow not decline because somebody is telling casuals with a little bit of time to not play, or making them feel inferior because they don't know all the tips and tricks to getting geared.

One thing I will advised is if your a casual avoid the forums because the toxicity is enough to kill any motivation in seconds

[Daknallbomb]

well how often you asked for tips and tricks for gearing if oyu have so much problems with it ? mayb link the post about it and we surely help

[peterthepan3]

I don't appreciate elitist jerks bashing the casual community because in all honesty they are needed more than these try hards. If your offended than that's you!

The community needs to grow not decline because somebody is telling casuals with a little bit of time to not play, or making them feel inferior because they don't know all the tips and tricks to getting geared.

One thing I will advised is if your a casual avoid the forums because the toxicity is enough to kill any motivation in seconds

On the contrary: what the game needs is more competitive people willing to form groups and play the game to it's utmost potential, and less whiney self-deprecating and demanding players who can't seem to fathom the importance of playing with other people.

I didn't say don't play, so way to strawman. I said if you are SO restricted on time (by your own admission), then perhaps you ought to play a game more suited to your individual and particular needs. Or should the game change to fit your needs?

Spare me the 'elitist jerk' crap. Can't stand fickle players that get easily offended yet are happy to throw jabs when the truth hurts. Talking about feeling inferior, wtf. If you don't want honest opinions then don't use the forums. As daknal has said, it's incredibly easy to get merc/anni so find a group with decent players and farm rvr/sc an hour or so a day. You'll see results.

Also: if casuals don't care about grouping in a group-based MMO, then that's their prerogative. Just don't moan if (and when) it goes pear-shaped. Cheers.

[Grock]

Daknal is right. If you're that casual and time constricted, just don't play.

thats how we went from 1500 to 300 online

[ToXoS]

Daknal is right. If you're that casual and time constricted, just don't play.

thats how we went from 1500 to 300 online

The max numbers of online players the server can have is 1400

[ragafury]

I try to help you (OP) out and every "casual" by leaving this here:

A direct awnser to your question OP:
The emphasis is heavily on oRvR, oRvR is time consuming, yes.
You have perhabs made not the best choice to farm this gear since you consider yourself as a "casual".
Asking for a conversion for medallions and tokens never resulted in applause from the "Dev + Database + GM Department"
The Gear progession is really smooth in this game, I wrote more than enough about this down below.

As neither a hardcore (skillwise, "muh 6 man" player) nor a 24/7 online guy (only logging for guild warbands or if somebody needs help which is almost never the case) I'm not a big fan of it either, gear progression goes overall fast enough, if you consider this is a mmorpg. (2-3 months max geared as I stated below, ofc a bit luck is necessary, and some form of organisation in a group of players, doesn't matter if guild / 6 man or something else), if you are really a casual casual player, triple the time and you have 6 months, which is in my eyes, more than good enough for BIS or almost BIS on one character in this game.

Some more awnsers for you are downbelow, but above is the "crucial" one, why I think, not much will change for you.

MEGA WALL OF TEXT INC. (You can stop reading here, the following is a "quckie" on how to gear up and my general thoughts about on how competive the gearing options in RoR are)

My experience on gearing up in RoR. (geared up 4 chars (2 above RR50, one almost RR70 (missing 20% ? I believe), one char to BIS gear)

Gear you should aim for if you have limited time aka. casual play, or the character is just a toon for fun or farming

Starter and advanced players gear sets:

Spoiler:

Ruin - grinded throug PvE T4 Public Quest; time to get it: 6 - 12 hours, depends mostly on the fact if you are lucky and soloing and < R40/RRX.

"Merc" - the "cheap" SC gear, mostly aquired by playing T4 scenarios, handing in the corresponding quests, and downgrading conq emblems to officer emblems; time to get it: took me 3x 8 hours on my choppa, started it with sub 40 and without ruin. A level 40 char should by far have more impact in scs, escpecially with entry gear and perhabs not as a mdps. Gloves n Boots are best bought in the AH to save time.

Annihilator - the "cheap" RvR gear, takes about 2-5 RvR sessions, depends on taken BOs, Zone locks and so on. If you are on the winning side it takes you perhabs 2 sessions / zone locks to get the full set. Gloves n Boots are best bought in the AH to save time.

Honorable Mentions:

Beast Lord - aquired by questing and killing specific bosses, all around the world, atm dissabled, will get soon™ reanbled. Doing all BL with a capable group, means a group which can play there class, takes about 1 hour (was my fastest full run). For the filthy casual you are about 3 days. Kappa (took the same time with my first char )

Rare Fortune - atm. a really expensive gear set which you can just buy, it's a world drop, means it drops from random mobs. So atm. not really an option cause the gear is fresh and longtime players are buying every drop via trade for "huge" gold amounts for there twinks to use it as a short cut.

Partial Resumee:

Spoiler:

You have multiple gearing options for every archtype in the game, combine this with ToK jewel unlocks, epic weapon quests and sc weapons (the cheap ones), and you are g2g. to play this game. Your mistake is the following: You are farming the gear set which takes the longest amount of time. If you are done with the options above, well nothing you can do about, than there are only 2 options:
1. invest more playtime (bad tip for you obvs. since you mentioned you are short on that.
2. optimize the time you can invest (form a smallscale group or join a guild with fixed warband days which you can attend)

If both of this is not possible, well you kinda have to live with it I guess, but is that really so bad?

Most classes don't really want full conq or do well without it.

Quick Tip:

Spoiler:

plan your character "template" before you start farming, means: if you play sorc or choppa go for a mix n match, if you are tank go straight for full ruin etc. best read a more specific thread about this (aka. gearing up), or open a new one if your question is really specific. This community is normally not that cancerous but really likes to derail threads. So, don't waste times on set pieces you don't really need. (eg. almost every dmg dealer in this game which has no access to conq wants ruin shoulders cause they offer 3% crit)

Other big thing, if you have limited time and want top notch gear and RR, only play one character.

Gear you should NOT farm if you are short on time:
(but you can consider doing so, cause as you can see, the gear mentioned above is farmed in under 4 weeks if you are really investing the time, you are not forced to do so, cause you will still be competitve)

Introducing words:

Spoiler:

First of all, before you even consider farming these, make sure you wear the stuff mention above, have a optimized specc and so on, because otherwise it will demand even MORE time because you want kills, non of these gear is farmed easy without you understanding your class basics and optimizing for SCs, oRvR, solo roaming and so on.

Next, this is the absolute endgame gear, after this, the game has nothing to offer besides more of the same, PvP.
So no more gearing up. it's on one side nice, because you don't have to hope for dem' bagz n shiniez, but on the other hand you than only play for your team aka guild and the renown bar. so no more gear motivation and no more "yes I have something new" feeling.
If you don't want to play PvP or stay and just grab your gear, and go back were you came from, than I'm ok with you leaving the community, sorry for the truth. If not feel welcome and enjoy your stay. that's my personal opinion about that.

Last but not least before I say something about the rest:
Renown Rank is far more important than gear sets, these gear sets will not break the game, nor does RR do so (ok RD and CW are a bit more on the OP side), but in general, your character will just perform minimal better with better gear, with more RR the character will by far perform better. That's ofc just my personal experience, but skilled out defender is more block total (10%) than any gear has atm to offer standalone (conq 8%, ruin 7%), yes it offers more stats, but you have to invest far more time for a minimal upgrade. same goes for your wanted set. it's complete endgame. so if you say you are short on time, rather focus on that (leveling RR to the mid 60s), it's by far the biggest upgrade in terms of upgrades in general.

"Endgame" Gearsets:

Spoiler:

Dominator Gear:
You have just booked a month of scenarios if you plan to farm all that stuff. the complete gear is not even desired by most classes, not even 2hd tanks want the full gear and rather mix n match for optimization. you need, if I remember right 2665 SC tokens, pure tokens from wins. If you plan on farming this, better get a friend for ez mode pug sc's or a full 6man boyband for effiency, alone it's a boring grind anyway, and as I mentioned, you don't want even to have all that stuff.

Conq Set:
I finished Conq last month, took me if I recall it right 2,5 months. This stuff isn't farmed easy, some ppl run in 6 mans, I had only one experience so far were conq medals were faster farmed in a 6 man than in a guild warband. on top of that the bags. if you play in the most successful group in RvR (Kills, BOs, and whatever is all included in the willy wonka forumula) you get a high contri, now you only need to roll a juicy number to secure that thing. If you play destro and Phalanx has a WB day, better forget about those bags, that's the truth. In this 2,5 months I had 2x Belts, 1x Shoulders, 1x Helmet, 1x Chest. Chest and belts dropped when I already was done with my conq. so I farmed 4/6 set pieces via Medals. If I look at our guild rooster, I can surely say, that's the average experience, at least for our guild, one of our herders is a bit above the average I would say, rest on average or below.

Besides that, if you are not a tank or a healer, you don't want to use full conq most of the time, chances are high you will follow more of a mix n match strat, and have a plan for a template.

Imperator & Co:
First of all, your stated in your Post that the T4 tokens are not dropping that common. yep, that's true. This gear is obvs. the ultimate carrot. You see it on the look, you see it on the stats, the gear is "standalone" statswise better than conq, not taking set boni into account which you get and break by mix and match. If you have read my gear progression on conq than I can tell you the following:
when I farmed all that conq medaIs I gathered as a sideeffect 486 Seals of the Paragon. This is not even enough for both pieces.
I spend Thursday 250 of them combined with the T3 Seal currency to aquire the first set piece, just for the looks and for my experimental 2hd speccs I do alone when nobody pays attention. So this gear is not farmed easily. At least the T4 part, the T3 counter part is farmed in 3 days, and that's a good design decision. Atm. I'm passing on them cause I'm too lazy to go back to T3 and farm the rest of it, as a side effect it bugs out my tactics if I reenter T4, so I'm just annoyed. Is this gear necessary for my main specc? no, not really. I just farmed it for the looks and cause I was bored a bit, and one of my friends annoyed me to do so.

Final Resumee about Gear Progression in this game:

Spoiler:

Is Conq, Dom, Imp needed to stay competitve?
I rather would say no.
Full Conq only performs on healers, and tanks really well. For debuff reasons in oRvR perhabs on some damage dealers.
Dominator follows the same pathern besides that it only supports secondary speccs / smallscale speccs. 2hd tanks, DPS "healers" and defensive damage dealers. I think nobody really wants the full set, I'm at least not aware of any classes that do so, perhabs a solo roaming choppa / slayer wants that gear, I don't know any that want to follow that playstyle. Since there is only one active Zone open only on this server (which is a right decission, otherwise there would be even more Player vs Door, Player vs BO) soloers have already a hard / uncomfy time if there are not a WH / WE.
Imp is like an inbetween. It supports the classes main specc or off spec. but by the time you have farmed full conq, you usually don't want to break it, and since the set has no (2) + 5x mainstat boni it's anyway questionable, even though the standalone stats and the offered boni is good. Could be possible that I overlook something for the one or other classes, but at least I could not imagine to make it work on a classes main specc if the trade off is 4/6 conq.
On the other hand there is the time investment and the RR issue I mentioned above.
To make it short high RR > higher gear set.
And the time factor ofc. you are investing 1,2,3 months of playtime for a mediocre upgrade.
In terms of that there are upcoming gear sets which are "easy" (we will see how the PQs of CH22 are) aquired, farming conq / imp / dom is really not worth the time effort.
But I can totally understand that casual players are a bit demotivated, so my best tip, just keep playing (one character, cause no RR wipe inc) and look forward for those patches.
Last thing is, I think some ppl. are a bit spoiled cause anni was for a really long time BIS, and not even for all classes, so you were g2g with ruin or merc.

[Haojin]

I try to help you (OP) out and every "casual" by leaving this here:

A direct awnser to your question OP:
The emphasis is heavily on oRvR, oRvR is time consuming, yes.
You have perhabs made not the best choice to farm this gear since you consider yourself as a "casual".
Asking for a conversion for medallions and tokens never resulted in applause from the "Dev + Database + GM Department"
The Gear progession is really smooth in this game, I wrote more than enough about this down below.

As neither a hardcore (skillwise, "muh 6 man" player) nor a 24/7 online guy (only logging for guild warbands or if somebody needs help which is almost never the case) I'm not a big fan of it either, gear progression goes overall fast enough, if you consider this is a mmorpg. (2-3 months max geared as I stated below, ofc a bit luck is necessary, and some form of organisation in a group of players, doesn't matter if guild / 6 man or something else), if you are really a casual casual player, triple the time and you have 6 months, which is in my eyes, more than good enough for BIS or almost BIS on one character in this game.

MEGA WALL OF TEXT INC. (You can stop reading here, the following is a "quckie" on how to gear up and my general thoughts about on how competive the gearing options in RoR are)

My experience on gearing up in RoR. (geared up 4 chars (2 above RR50, one almost RR70 (missing 20% ? I believe), one char to BIS gear)

Gear you should aim for if you have limited time aka. casual play, or the character is just a toon for fun or farming

Starter and advanced players gear sets:

Spoiler:

Ruin - grinded throug PvE T4 Public Quest; time to get it: 6 - 12 hours, depends mostly on the fact if you are lucky and soloing and < R40/RRX.

"Merc" - the "cheap" SC gear, mostly aquired by playing T4 scenarios, handing in the corresponding quests, and downgrading conq emblems to officer emblems; time to get it: took me 3x 8 hours on my choppa, started it with sub 40 and without ruin. A level 40 char should by far have more impact in scs, escpecially with entry gear and perhabs not as a mdps. Gloves n Boots are best bought in the AH to save time.

Annihilator - the "cheap" RvR gear, takes about 2-5 RvR sessions, depends on taken BOs, Zone locks and so on. If you are on the winning side it takes you perhabs 2 sessions / zone locks to get the full set. Gloves n Boots are best bought in the AH to save time.

Honorable Mentions:

Beast Lord - aquired by questing and killing specific bosses, all around the world, atm dissabled, will get soon™ reanbled. Doing all BL with a capable group, means a group which can play there class, takes about 1 hour (was my fastest full run). For the filthy casual you are about 3 days. Kappa (took the same time with my first char )

Rare Fortune - atm. a really expensive gear set which you can just buy, it's a world drop, means it drops from random mobs. So atm. not really an option cause the gear is fresh and longtime players are buying every drop via trade for "huge" gold amounts for there twinks to use it as a short cut.

Partial Resumee:

Spoiler:

You have multiple gearing options for every archtype in the game, combine this with ToK jewel unlocks, epic weapon quests and sc weapons (the cheap ones), and you are g2g. to play this game. Your mistake is the following: You are farming the gear set which takes the longest amount of time. If you are done with the options above, well nothing you can do about, than there are only 2 options:
1. invest more playtime (bad tip for you obvs. since you mentioned you are short on that.
2. optimize the time you can invest (form a smallscale group or join a guild with fixed warband days which you can attend)

If both of this is not possible, well you kinda have to live with it I guess, but is that really so bad?

Most classes don't really want full conq or do well without it.

Quick Tip:

Spoiler:

plan your character "template" before you start farming, means: if you play sorc or choppa go for a mix n match, if you are tank go straight for full ruin etc. best read a more specific thread about this (aka. gearing up), or open a new one if your question is really specific. This community is normally not that cancerous but really likes to derail threads. So, don't waste times on set pieces you don't really need. (eg. almost every dmg dealer in this game which has no access to conq wants ruin shoulders cause they offer 3% crit)

Other big thing, if you have limited time and want top notch gear and RR, only play one character.

Gear you should NOT farm if you are short on time:
(but you can consider doing so, cause as you can see, the gear mentioned above is farmed in under 4 weeks if you are really investing the time, you are not forced to do so, cause you will still be competitve)

Introducing words:

Spoiler:

First of all, before you even consider farming these, make sure you wear the stuff mention above, have a optimized specc and so on, because otherwise it will demand even MORE time because you want kills, non of these gear is farmed easy without you understanding your class basics and optimizing for SCs, oRvR, solo roaming and so on.

Next, this is the absolute endgame gear, after this, the game has nothing to offer besides more of the same, PvP.
So no more gearing up. it's on one side nice, because you don't have to hope for dem' bagz n shiniez, but on the other hand you than only play for your team aka guild and the renown bar. so no more gear motivation and no more "yes I have something new" feeling.
If you don't want to play PvP or stay and just grab your gear, and go back were you came from, than I'm ok with you leaving the community, sorry for the truth. If not feel welcome and enjoy your stay. that's my personal opinion about that.

Last but not least before I say something about the rest:
Renown Rank is far more important than gear sets, these gear sets will not break the game, nor does RR do so (ok RD and CW are a bit more on the OP side), but in general, your character will just perform minimal better with better gear, with more RR the character will by far perform better. That's ofc just my personal experience, but skilled out defender is more block total (10%) than any gear has atm to offer standalone (conq 8%, ruin 7%), yes it offers more stats, but you have to invest far more time for a minimal upgrade. same goes for your wanted set. it's complete endgame. so if you say you are short on time, rather focus on that (leveling RR to the mid 60s), it's by far the biggest upgrade in terms of upgrades in general.

"Endgame" Gearsets:

Spoiler:

Dominator Gear:
You have just booked a month of scenarios if you plan to farm all that stuff. the complete gear is not even desired by most classes, not even 2hd tanks want the full gear and rather mix n match for optimization. you need, if I remember right 2665 SC tokens, pure tokens from wins. If you plan on farming this, better get a friend for ez mode pug sc's or a full 6man boyband for effiency, alone it's a boring grind anyway, and as I mentioned, you don't want even to have all that stuff.

Conq Set:
I finished Conq last month, took me if I recall it right 2,5 months. This stuff isn't farmed easy, some ppl run in 6 mans, I had only one experience so far were conq medals were faster farmed in a 6 man than in a guild warband. on top of that the bags. if you play in the most successful group in RvR (Kills, BOs, and whatever is all included in the willy wonka forumula) you get a high contri, now you only need to roll a juicy number to secure that thing. If you play destro and Phalanx has a WB day, better forget about those bags, that's the truth. In this 2,5 months I had 2x Belts, 1x Shoulders, 1x Helmet, 1x Chest. Chest and belts dropped when I already was done with my conq. so I farmed 4/6 set pieces via Medals. If I look at our guild rooster, I can surely say, that's the average experience, at least for our guild, one of our herders is a bit above the average I would say, rest on average or below.

Besides that, if you are not a tank or a healer, you don't want to use full conq most of the time, chances are high you will follow more of a mix n match strat, and have a plan for a template.

Imperator & Co:
First of all, your stated in your Post that the T4 tokens are not dropping that common. yep, that's true. This gear is obvs. the ultimate carrot. You see it on the look, you see it on the stats, the gear is "standalone" statswise better than conq, not taking set boni into account which you get and break by mix and match. If you have read my gear progression on conq than I can tell you the following:
when I farmed all that conq medaIs I gathered as a sideeffect 486 Seals of the Paragon. This is not even enough for both pieces.
I spend Thursday 250 of them combined with the T3 Seal currency to aquire the first set piece, just for the looks and for my experimental 2hd speccs I do alone when nobody pays attention. So this gear is not farmed easily. At least the T4 part, the T3 counter part is farmed in 3 days, and that's a good design decision. Atm. I'm passing on them cause I'm too lazy to go back to T3 and farm the rest of it, as a side effect it bugs out my tactics if I reenter T4, so I'm just annoyed. Is this gear necessary for my main specc? no, not really. I just farmed it for the looks and cause I was bored a bit, and one of my friends annoyed me to do so.

Final Resumee about Gear Progression in this game:

Spoiler:

Is Conq, Dom, Imp needed to stay competitve?
I rather would say no.
Full Conq only performs on healers, and tanks really well. For debuff reasons in oRvR perhabs on some damage dealers.
Dominator follows the same pathern besides that it only supports secondary speccs / smallscale speccs. 2hd tanks, DPS "healers" and defensive damage dealers. I think nobody really wants the full set, I'm at least not aware of any classes that do so, perhabs a solo roaming choppa / slayer wants that gear, I don't know any that want to follow that playstyle. Since there is only one active Zone open only on this server (which is a right decission, otherwise there would be even more Player vs Door, Player vs BO) soloers have already a hard / uncomfy time if there are not a WH / WE.
Imp is like an inbetween. It supports the classes main specc or off spec. but by the time you have farmed full conq, you usually don't want to break it, and since the set has no (2) + 5x mainstat boni it's anyway questionable, even though the standalone stats and the offered boni is good. Could be possible that I overlook something for the one or other classes, but at least I could not imagine to make it work on a classes main specc if the trade off is 4/6 conq.
On the other hand there is the time investment and the RR issue I mentioned above.
To make it short high RR > higher gear set.
And the time factor ofc. you are investing 1,2,3 months of playtime for a mediocre upgrade.
In terms of that there are upcoming gear sets which are "easy" (we will see how the PQs of CH22 are) aquired, farming conq / imp / dom is really not worth the time effort.
But I can totally understand that casual players are a bit demotivated, so my best tip, just keep playing (one character, cause no RR wipe inc) and look forward for those patches.
Last thing is, I think some ppl. are a bit spoiled cause anni was for a really long time BIS, and not even for all classes, so you were g2g with ruin or merc.

dude.
op only needs to play very early eu time, gear will rain on him.

[wargrimnir]

I try to help you (OP) out and every "casual" by leaving this here:

- snip -

That's a good breakdown.

Now to add more stuff so getting more stuff is just a matter of doing things. You have to do things to get stuff.