Give no renown for kill in SCs

[ShadowWar]

...Scenarios have ALWAYS been a mix of PvP and PvE, just because you think you're too good to do the BOs doesn't mean others aren't. PTFO or stop ruining the fun for people that want the content and not just some random slashing and scenario losing.

You... I like you.

Needless to say, I strongly disagree with this "ZOMG JUSt KILLLZZZZZZZZZZZZ!" attitude. It's less interesting gameplay and would be the deathknel for the mode. There's a reason why games that ONLY do battlegrounds are objective based. DotA, Marvel Rivals, League of Legends, Overwatch, Fortnite, etc... every single one of those games has objectives, staggered objectives, or some kind of mechanism to force players together to fight over.

The point of WAR isn't to fight, it's to win. Creating rules that allow for actual victory is good and healthy.

[Roids]

Man it feels like this thread was opend by this special kind of player (best tank/heal) who rush head first into flag to hug it, put some random guard on someone when whole team get snacked and still spamms SC chat "FLAG FLAG, take the FLAG".
Yes just remove renown from kills in SCs, but after removing all renown from open rvr kills. But hey thats ur main contend right, where only thing thats needed is to somehow follow and get more than actually try ur best in scs. Whole playerbase degenerated so much, its hard to even put it in words, how bad lvl 40+ players are, or even in sov gear. But thats all from pressing two buttons and zerging his way to 80, never really learned the game. And u see it so many times in pve that the easiest things like maybe attack and run at the same time are to hard for 50% of players.
Dont wanna attack anyone here, but I just wait that all classes gets changed to max 4 abilities to not overstrain most players and that they dont have to change their habbits they learned in open rvr.

[paoz]

Basically this idea comes from the fact that even with massively reduced renown gains people will STILL hold onto the objective to farm kills. Clearly massively reducing the amount of renown isn't enough for people to figure out they should be winning the scenario instead, as seeing a purple number makes them want to just keep getting more, regardless of how small it is.

So, the only obvious next step is just make it so you don't get ANY renown at all for kills in scenarios. Not seeing any purple number on kills might finally get people to realise that they should be focusing on the actual objective instead.

Just give a lot of renown bonus for winning an SC. I believe this will solve the problem.

[wardfan220]

Basically this idea comes from the fact that even with massively reduced renown gains people will STILL hold onto the objective to farm kills. Clearly massively reducing the amount of renown isn't enough for people to figure out they should be winning the scenario instead, as seeing a purple number makes them want to just keep getting more, regardless of how small it is.

So, the only obvious next step is just make it so you don't get ANY renown at all for kills in scenarios. Not seeing any purple number on kills might finally get people to realise that they should be focusing on the actual objective instead.

Just give a lot of renown bonus for winning an SC. I believe this will solve the problem.

I don't think it will, the same people think that bashing and slashing is how you win