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[Archmage] How to heal

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Re: [Archmage] How to heal

Post#51 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:18 pm

The issue with AM heals is the lack of counterring the enemy burst. HE is a 1s cast low heal which is feccing expensive without WH and BoH is a 2s big heal. I can't tell you how many times my target got killed before I could cast of my BoH. The RP burst heal is better due to the +25% incheal tactic.

Yes yes, you're gonna tell me I suck or smth, but that is the truth. Outside FM m2 the AM doesn't shine (same with the shammy), but during it, we are healing gods.

M2+ AOE or BoH + Quickening proc from the Epic Quest staff = godly heal, everyone 100% HP

Also I would love the cleanse tactic to be made viable for an AM. WP get a group cleanse and RP get a spammable one.
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Re: [Archmage] How to heal

Post#52 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:31 pm

Kali14 wrote: And AM is better much more than RP and WP because AM crit you once and in 1 second you may regain 3000 hp, and before RP or WP restore you 3000 hp by their fast but small heals you die 2 times. I play ROR 6 months and remember only once when some RP crit me few times for 2200. Their small heals are too small when you are attacked by 2-3 enemies . Maybe total they doing more heals than AM but it's because they always stealing something from AM big heals. And AM have group snare.
There is a lot more to RP than just "big heals". 25% heal bless means they will outperform AM any day. WP get huge off this proc. Addon 1k+ armour proc for dps, 800absorb every ~4.5s on their focus heal target, initiative buff, group AP proc, and their armour tactic making them probably the hardest to kill healer going.

WP has a lot more survivability, and heals from 2 resources. Offers 2 great on hit procs from prayers, AoE burst healing and keeps the group topped off. Useful as you can focus on the big single target heals while the WP keeps the tanks topped up with AoEHeal/HoT

So what does AM offer? A bit of burst healing and a bit more kiting. AM group snare isn't great in most situation as IB/KotBS can keep the enemy tanks/dps snared with AoE snares. SM m2 can also do this.
Kali14 wrote: There is no time to think, you use only 3 abilities, aoe heal, group snare and detanout.
Definition of noob right here. AM HoTs are the reason they're so good in kite groups. Try and play a 6vX kite or even melee group using only those 3 skills. You'll instantly wipe.
Lambent Aura + Healing Energy are worth a lot more in terms of HPS. 1 Lambet Aura+ Healing Energy is at least 3k total healing in 2gcds(without crits), while AoE heal is 1k healing to your focus in the same time.

Using LA/HE/BoH you can heal 1target for ~12k over 15s
Just spamming BoI you heal 1target for 6k over 15s.

Bombing is different, HoTs are still very worth the time investment, precasting on Tanks/DPS, then spamming AoE heal and topping up with HE/BoH when needed.

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Re: [Archmage] How to heal

Post#53 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:56 pm

As AM I did all Lost Vale as only 35 RR. And this what about are you talking like group absorb and different funny things don't help you when you get critical hits from sorcerer for 2500 dmg. If you want prove how you are good try win as pug. Not in premade when you fight 6 v 1.

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Re: [Archmage] How to heal

Post#54 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:04 pm

Kali14 wrote:As AM I did all Lost Vale as only 35 RR.
This thread keeps on delivering. My goodness.

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Re: [Archmage] How to heal

Post#55 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:28 pm

Kali14 wrote:As AM I did all Lost Vale as only 35 RR. And this what about are you talking like group absorb and different funny things don't help you when you get critical hits from sorcerer for 2500 dmg. If you want prove how you are good try win as pug. Not in premade when you fight 6 v 1.
Instead of boasting how godly of an AM you are, why don't you give some insights how you reached godhood. We don't care about your adventures as an AM, this thread is about healing, what you should and shouldn't be doing. Stay on topic or get out.
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Re: [Archmage] How to heal

Post#56 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:57 pm

shaggyboomboom wrote:The issue with AM heals is the lack of counterring the enemy burst. HE is a 1s cast low heal which is feccing expensive without WH and BoH is a 2s big heal. I can't tell you how many times my target got killed before I could cast of my BoH.
This is why am needs to precast. A good am anticipates damage incoming to their group and has good awareness of combat. Am needs to be very careful when they are going to waste a gcd. Your gcd's are precious. You don't want to find yourself in a situation where you just used some awesome utility skill and your groupmate is being bursted down, you are going to be 3+ seconds away from landing a heal on them.

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Re: [Archmage] How to heal

Post#57 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:26 am

The issue is, you can't precast in every situation.
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Re: [Archmage] How to heal

Post#58 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:05 am

I wrote you all my build before as Skalier. And this is optimum what you can do now with Annihilator and on 45 RR. Only one what you can cheange is spent last 10 mastery points from asurian on vaul spec. I respeced myself more than 100 times and try everything. For PUG healing in scenarios and in WBs this is the best build. Armour talismans, 0 to being critically hit, max for criticall heal, jewellery from tome unlock which I use, tactic +40% more heals and tactic for AP when critically heal, +willpower tactic and +10 crit heal tactic xD

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Re: [Archmage] How to heal

Post#59 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:17 am

Annaise16 wrote:Why do people keep writing that you should be using Shield of Saphery instead of Magical Infusion? You should be using both!
Usually I really like to read your post, because it seems that you have a good understanding of the game mechanics. But this I don´t understand. You really suggest that magical infusion is better than healdebuff or silence (I use the silence^^^)?
You can´t get both until rr50 or full set. And even with rr50 or full set, I tend to Bolstering Boon instead of magical infusion.
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Re: [Archmage] How to heal

Post#60 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:53 pm

Is anyone running the test build of Archmage where you build/spend one point of tranquility at a time?

Trying to figure out how to build for scenarios; I see magical infusion and wild healing as necessary.... nothing else really synergizes.

FE/MoTM, Scatter the Winds, Law of Gold and Energy of Vaul.

Restorative Burst seems more useful if you're doing real spell weaving.

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