Only a few ideas because iam a casual player

[ragafury]

dude.
op only needs to play very early eu time, gear will rain on him.

For Conq / Imp / Subju bags.

Take zones in graveyard shift. got my subju 2hd server first that way.

I understand he is a bit "triggered" / demotivated. But there is no reason actually.

My main statement is:
Gear progression is not that harsh, and OP is farming more of an "presitige item" that has no actual use, but stating that he is short on time too.
Perhabs, as I stated, somebody has a use for it in his gear template.
But I don't see any "real" use. that's why I wrote that stuff down.

[TenTonHammer]

I try to help you (OP) out and every "casual" by leaving this here:

Hey man this is a really good write up, there were a few details even i didnt really know about, thanks

[ragafury]

well yeah, I know people like to just "play".
that never is my style. I really make my thoughts about how to get stuff done and be efficient. and tbh. it never failed me big time, just have to analyze stuff and work out a "how to: plan".

and after this two pages full of trash and derailment, I was thinking that OP deserved a real awnser.

[dansari]

One thing I've noticed is some people have said, "play during off times and gear will rain on you." While I agree that the best time to get stuff like conq is during pvdoor, is it not counter intuitive that to obtain the BiS gear you have to play during the hours you have zero opposition?

[Darosh]

I feel a little like a broken record... alot of these threads are popping up recently.

Spoiler:

Vertical progression in RoR is found in groupplay, and is further bascially unlocked via basic coordination.

Protip: Form a group, set it up properly, get on voice comms, kill things, funnel stuff (meds/embs/seals) into your core players, kill more things - rinse repeat until stuff dies on impact and everyone is decked out, and then: continue to kill stuff.

Protip²: Form a group, set it up properly (i.e.: reliable [morale] AoE + on-demand ST burst, alot of punch, yada yada), get on voice comms, nest your premade inside a pug warband, lead pug warband (i.e.: use as meatshield and for firepower), time the AoE/form assisttrains; kill (i.e.: get the deathblows on) things - drown in lootrolls -, funnel stuff (meds/embs/seals) into your core players, kill more thinigs - rinse repeat until stuff dies on impact and everyone is decked out, and then: continue to kill stuff.

Note: Coordination > composition > gear.


Not everyone wants or cares for the Imp/Over stuff, running with people you know and asking them to opt out of these seals (or emblems/meds for that matter) might do the trick for you.
Competing* with three other groups - and after that with 5 strangers - in PugORvR, up to three groups - and, still, after that 5 strangers - in SCs or the entirety of your realm in soloroam for loot is asinine, especially if you have only very little time on your hands, tbh...
{Abbd.:} *The above accounts for the pug sessions in which one manages to get into a group with a halfway decent dps or just about anything killsteal-savy, or even more importantly: anything that survives long enough to do stuff. I.e.: If you join a pug warband and expect to drown in seals; to go on a lootroll winstreak, and are subsequently disappointed by what looks like a bad dropchance or a evil grind...chances are you don't even have a horse in the race to begin with.

TLDR: There is no 'you-have-to' in pugplay - gear doesn't better your experience in pugplay. If you play in a group, funnel stuff into people if you haven't already.

OT: Imo, if seals were to be gained via SC it would defeat the purpose of the sets. I consider these seals to be an additional incentive for SCs players to get out of their comfort zone and participate in some ORvR. Droprates and so on would have to be kept very tiny to take the nature of SCs into account (i.e.: the pugfarming that is 'occasionally' taking place), I imagine.

[Aurandilaz]

One thing I've noticed is some people have said, "play during off times and gear will rain on you." While I agree that the best time to get stuff like conq is during pvdoor, is it not counter intuitive that to obtain the BiS gear you have to play during the hours you have zero opposition?

More like instead of having to compete in a lottery with 150 people, you will only have to win the lottery against 20-30 people.
During offtimes it still may be 30vs30 fights, compared to maintime EU 100vs100 fights or even more on some days.

You play the lotto where the numbers are least against you.

(that being said I'm one of those lazy people who do RvR only during maintime because I just do it for the fun of killing as many people as possible)

[Collateral]

People have to realize there is no "gear gap" on this server, at least not yet (we will see how it develops). The other day I helped out a fellow greenskin with his gear and build. In the end he ended up with almost exactly the same stats as I have with my "BiS" 5p conq 4p BL. The only thing players lose are procs, which is really no reason to freak out. If you know how to build your character and how you want to build him, you will have no problems being on par with the higher rr players with "BiS" gear. Yes it requires you to have either a decent amount of gold for some nice talismans, or to have leveled tali making so you can make your own. The same thing applies to potion making.

And if you have 1 hour a day to play, you can make a schedule. One day you can farm gold, one day you can do SCs, one day you can do RvR, or you can do some PvE, or maybe level your crafting skills. Yes some of these are probably boring and might not seem worth it, but in the long run if you want to build your character I really see no other way. This is how the game is designed, you have to work for your things. In one hour you should be able to farm 20+ gold, which is enough to get you a decent talisman or two. And if you keep doing your schedule like that you will see progress I'm sure. Just get organized. Don't go into RvR zone like a mindless chicken (I'm not referring or applying to the OP here), think about the best way to spend your time on. Is the zone being zerged? Or maybe your own realm is zerging? If so there is probably low chance of you getting any contribution or medallions, especially if you're not in the zone since the start. So maybe you should go do SCs or farm some gold.

Also, don't be afraid to meet people. There are others like you, who don't have a whole day on their hands. If you group with them you will see how much easier things will become. Try duoing SCs, or pull even more mobs for farming and so on. Things become SO much better even with one other person, and it applies to both of you.

Yes it will take time to develop your character like this, but as I said it is what it is. Ask people for helping you out if you need any advice for your gear or spec. Trust me the players will help you out and you will hear a lot of different perspectives.

And in the end, if you simply don't enjoy the game for what it is, I'm afraid there's nothing else to be done. This goes for everyone and not just casual players. There are so many games out there I'm pretty sure everyone can find at least one that they like.